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Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by anon7000 on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @12:52PM (#48463711)
No, this is unrelated from privacy. The issue is that the EU won’t allow the new Siri because Apple isn’t willing to open up the system enough for 3rd party AI agents to get the same functionality.
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by butlike on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @02:48PM (#48465712)
Because Siri is the brand and other competitors will dilute the brand with their inferior products, is the line of reasoning, I'm sure. I'm unclear on why apple is branding the AI launcher or whatever if it's just going to be a wrapper for a third party product, however.
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by dd8601fn on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:40PM (#48464542)
Functionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures.

I’m sure Apple doesn’t want to cave and give OpenAI free access to the spotlight semantic db, the ability see what’s on your screen at all times, etc.

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by inetknght on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @02:06PM (#48465030)
> Functionally the EU is requiring that Apple dramatically RELAX their privacy and security postures.

No. Interoperability doesn't require Apple relax their privacy and security postures. It could instead require third parties to improve theirs.

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by wtallis on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @02:59PM (#48465891)
> It could instead require third parties to improve theirs.

Apple made it sound like their proposal for that was rejected by the EU. And it would be consistent with previous regulatory decisions by the EU for them to not want Apple to be setting the rules for how third-party interoperability partners/competitors ensure privacy.

It seems to me that the EU has a preference for protecting privacy with legal mechanisms, and generally doesn't approve of Apple's attempts to protect privacy with technical mechanisms because that inevitably limits interoperability with systems that aren't designed around the same restrictions and assumptions.

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by dd8601fn on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @08:15PM (#48469571)
I’m sure they love it when Apple says, “Well… they COULD give is their models to put in private compute, but we’re not paying them for that and they’re not getting any more data than we get, ourselves. Which is exactly none.”
Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by tzs on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @07:35PM (#48469278)
Would that be allowed under EU law?

Apple is building a system that is more private than EU law requires. If they tell say Facebook that Facebook can integrate in but first must meet the same more than is legally required standard Apple is aiming for wouldn't that be anti-competitive?

Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by microtonal on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @02:06PM (#48465035)
Same as you wouldn't want every app to read your contacts or location. If we only had something to do that.

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Re:Apple decided not to roll out Siri in EU after denied req... by MBCook on Tuesday June 09, 2026 @01:38PM (#48464500)
Which I would argue is HARDER to do while preserving privacy.