Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by fragmede on Friday June 05, 2026 @04:55PM
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Except in the US, it does. Depending on the card, it can cost as much as 4.5% (or more!) to run the card. You can argue that it shouldn't, but that's a different statement than it doesn't.
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Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by colechristensen on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:08PM
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uh, I'm including the card issuers as participants in this multi-party scam
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by fragmede on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:50PM
(#48418821)
It's still costing them > 3%.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by bijowo1676 on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:13PM
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it is illegal for Merchants to charge credit card processing fees by law, they have to absorb these fees and cannot display them to the customer.
This naturally protects the artificial oligopoly of visa/mc/discover systems.
The moment you allow Merchants to charge cc fees (even 2-3%) and allow customer to choose low processing option (ACH/debit card/cash), the whole scheme falls apart and Visa/MC will slowly go bankrupt
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by colechristensen on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:17PM
(#48418452)
>it is illegal for Merchants to charge credit card processing fees by law,
This is only true in 4 states.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by bijowo1676 on Friday June 05, 2026 @05:20PM
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the typical Merchant<->bank agreements all have clauses forcing them to absorb these fees and explicitly barring them from separately charging customer CC fee.
and most small/med businesses dont have clout to protest that, so they have to accept these terms in order to earn money
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by lxgr on Friday June 05, 2026 @06:33PM
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> the typical Merchant<->bank agreements all have clauses forcing them to absorb these fees and explicitly barring them from separately charging customer CC fee.
These clauses would be illegal in many states and countries these days, so they don’t.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by colechristensen on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:01PM
(#48420331)
This hasn't been the case for a wide variety of payment processors for quite a while now. Many of the new startup-based ones have features to help you pass through the fees even. Small business can use Stripe, Square, Clover, or one of many other payment processors that don't ban them from passing credit card fees forward to consumers.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by Scaled on Friday June 05, 2026 @09:43PM
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FYI there was a lawsuit about this a while back and part of the settlement was merchants can pass on fees now.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by FireBeyond on Saturday June 06, 2026 @05:53PM
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> they have to absorb these fees
absorb and then pass on as general "costs have risen". It's not like it's coming out of their profits, exclusively.
Re:Gov.uk has replaced Stripe with Dutch provider Adyen
by bijowo1676 on Saturday June 06, 2026 @07:10PM
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if people could choose Debit card for no fee vs Credit card for 2.5% fee, then customers would reduce their usage of cc for purchases