Re:Cloudflare Turnstile requiring fingerprintable WebGL
by brookst on Monday June 01, 2026 @08:59AM
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I mean coal power plants work, so building new ones is not stupid by that standard.
I think we have to expand the definition of stupid to include things that work but have net negative externalities. Not sure where PoW falls in that way of looking at things, but we should at least consider it.
(Thinking about it, Captcha is PoW, just theoretically work by the human)
Re:Cloudflare Turnstile requiring fingerprintable WebGL
by tarpitt on Tuesday June 02, 2026 @10:01PM
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Necroing this, but perhaps you might be interested in some sort of BOINC-like PoW scheme for websites. This was a distributed computing project originially known as Seti@Home. It's not really practical for cryptocurrency PoW applications (despite its use in Gridcoin) due to the centralized nature of the challenge-response, but certainly more useful than captchas or hashes!
If some computation is "useless" but it serves it's purpose, it's not useless.
The reason why bitcoin network expends so much energy is down to tokenomics, not the system of PoW itself. At equilibrium we expect the power usage to be (blocks/hr) x (BTC/block) x ($/BTC) x (kWh/$), so it's a function of the BTC price and emission rate.
PoW in other context has way different driving factors. In this case, the marginal improvement of fetching the site again for AI bots isn't enough to cover the PoW cost. The PoW cost is outweighed by the net bandwidth cost of all the parties.