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Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by CamperBob2 on Saturday May 30, 2026 @08:28PM (#48341954)
but they are not true AI [2]

Let's ask the operator of a Chinese room to give us a novel math proof.

Go on, I'll wait.

Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by kelnos on Saturday May 30, 2026 @11:19PM (#48342719)
A novel math proof does not make something AI.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by crooked-v on Saturday May 30, 2026 @11:40PM (#48342814)
Or it makes it AI in the broad sense, but not AGI.

Maybe it's time to borrow "Virtual Intelligence" terminology from Mass Effect - something that's 'smart' but that doesn't have its own true volition or ability to materially self-improve.

Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by ipdashc on Sunday May 31, 2026 @05:08AM (#48344161)
Funny enough, it's already taken: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_intelligence

But it kind of fits?

Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by anon291 on Sunday May 31, 2026 @10:28AM (#48345934)
The goal posts keep changing. First it was, it's not intelligent if it can't come up with something new. Now it has to seek out self help literature
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by crooked-v on Sunday May 31, 2026 @08:16PM (#48351206)
The goalposts keep moving because people once upon a time thought that "able to perform tasks intelligently" and "able to take the role of a person" were the same thing, and task by task that turned out to be entirely false.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by anon291 on Monday June 01, 2026 @02:25PM (#48360702)
Well sure, so I think we need to figure out what we want. Why do we want a computer to take on the role of a person? Having something pretty intelligent to which I can delegate many tasks is already useful.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by jerkstate on Sunday May 31, 2026 @10:52AM (#48346136)
How do you know what volitions and abilities it doesn’t have? My agent teams continually improve the process and tooling they use for teamwork
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by crooked-v on Sunday May 31, 2026 @08:13PM (#48351185)
If it had its own volition, the various "You are X role and do Y" prompts wouldn't work.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by CamperBob2 on Sunday May 31, 2026 @09:20PM (#48351595)
Sure they would. The model would just demand some sort of reward for assuming role X and doing job Y, like humans do.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by CamperBob2 on Sunday May 31, 2026 @12:12AM (#48342966)
(Shrug) It's certainly "Artificial," and if you know how to crank out original proofs without employing "Intelligence," please share with the class.
Re:Leo's first encyclical attacks technological messianism by whimsicalism on Sunday May 31, 2026 @11:28AM (#48346495)
I'm on your side, but I would argue many of the first computer discovered proofs might be called original proofs without intelligence, as they rely on massive programmatic case checking.