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Re:What Is a Dickover? by avaer on Friday May 29, 2026 @08:57PM (#48331269)
I don't get why people feel entitled to _not_ get dickovers. Are you paying for what you're using, to a sufficient degree that the ecosystem can work without the dickover being presented to you?

This shouldn't be the user's problem, but this is the market working. The dickovers are there because someone somewhere is making money because the dickovers are there. Saying you want the content without the spam is more or less saying you want other people to do the work and you don't want to pay for it.

If you don't like ads/dickovers, you don't have to use the site/app. The provider has decided you're not worth it. To be fair, you probably aren't making them money.

There are exceptions, but you shouldn't feel entitled to use the thing without paying the "dickover price" that the provider has decided to charge.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by wtallis on Friday May 29, 2026 @11:51PM (#48332374)
It's my computer, not yours. The browser is my user agent, not your server agent. If you don't want me viewing your page according to my preferences, then the world wide web is not the right medium for you to be working in. Go write a native app and try to convince people to install it. Once you serve up the contents of a web page to my user agent, you have consented to letting me digest that content however I want.

This is not a sense of "entitlement", it's just the fundamental reality of what the web is.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by chrsw on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:03PM (#48331302)
I guess the entitlement comes from looking at it from the other way: my employer pays me a lot for my attention. I've accepted the arrangement so now I pay attention to their problems. If you want me to pay attention to your problem, there has to be something in it for me.

I've been wondering how we can use AI to clean up websites before they hit our eyes. If AI is as good as they say it is, surely it can clean up dickovers. If someone is allowed to shove something in front of my face should I not be allowed to make them invisible?

Re:What Is a Dickover? by avaer on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:12PM (#48331350)
> If someone is allowed to shove something in front of my face should I not be allowed to make them invisible?

Yes, I'm 100% on the adblock train. Local AI adblock sounds like a great solution.

Then maybe dickovers will go away when the market realizes they don't work. That's the only way.

What won't help is complaining that the largely free products we get don't work the way we want them to.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by pooploop64 on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:41PM (#48331526)
>What won't help is complaining that the largely free products we get don't work the way we want them to. This makes no sense and seems bad-faith on multiple levels.
Re:What Is a Dickover? by avaer on Friday May 29, 2026 @10:09PM (#48331704)
On the contrary, I'm assuming good faith on the part of those who implement these "dark" patterns.

They're done for a reason, and that reason is not pure evil from their perspective.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by chrsw on Saturday May 30, 2026 @08:40AM (#48335545)
Why doesn't Apple do dickovers? Or Hacker News?
Re:What Is a Dickover? by projektfu on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:17PM (#48331376)
It must be worth a lot for me to see it, because if I land on a site shopping for something, I might just turn around when you interrupt me and force me to actively not sign up for your email list.
Re:What Is a Dickover? by avaer on Friday May 29, 2026 @10:02PM (#48331663)
You should turn around! That's literally my point.

If everyone refused to touch a site that blasts you with a dickover, they would disappear overnight. Clearly people do not do this enough, because it's still being implemented.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by what on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:03PM (#48331303)
No one is making money on cookie consent dickovers, which is the majority of them.
Re:What Is a Dickover? by TurdF3rguson on Friday May 29, 2026 @10:40PM (#48331920)
Generally, if you're setting cookies that aren't necessary for your website's operation... there's some financial motive for it.
Re:What Is a Dickover? by 8675309t on Friday May 29, 2026 @09:57PM (#48331628)
Bootlicker
Re:What Is a Dickover? by avaer on Friday May 29, 2026 @10:01PM (#48331649)
I'm not in this industry. I block basically everything. I think the state of these design antipatterns is terrible.

But this is a Chesterton's Fence problem and we need to understand where it came from if we're going to fix it.

Re:What Is a Dickover? by tomhow on Sunday May 31, 2026 @04:18AM (#48343955)
We've banned this account.
Re:What Is a Dickover? by lynnesbian on Saturday May 30, 2026 @01:58AM (#48333084)
The author mentions a site they are paying for that still exhibits this behaviour:

> Here’s one from The Philadelphia Inquirer, for which I pay $20/month to subscribe, asking me to sign up for SMS text messages about the Jersey shore, while I’m logged into their cursed website, before they’ll let me see the article I came to read.

I would consider $20/mo "paying [...] to a sufficient degree that the ecosystem can work without the dickover".

Re:What Is a Dickover? by barnabee on Saturday May 30, 2026 @04:47AM (#48334096)
Abusive business models should be illegal. Nobody is entitled to harass their customers because their business would fall apart otherwise.

Get a new business model or close the site. Nobody has the right to do whatever they feel like to make money, no matter the impact on other people.