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Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by niek_pas on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @11:06AM (#48295482)
Unless I'm missing something, there's also nothing in the paper to indicate this is "all of human ingredients"? It looks like it's 11 data sources covering a bunch of common cuisines, with the English + Chinese sources accounting for 90% (!) of the dataset. Among others, Africa and the Arab world are not present in the data (good for about 25% of the global population).

Also, all non-English terms were AI-translated to English which is methodologically understandable but surely leaves room for error.

Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by order-matters on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @11:51AM (#48296099)
translation is an interesting problem in and of itself still. its kind of a miracle we can do it at all, yet in some circumstances it seems obvious for there to be objective answers (cooking ingredients being one of them), but even then you never really know even with human translators if you've got it correct. even within the same language nearly every individual has their own version of it.

for example, how would you translate "chips" to another language without first knowing which version of English you are translating from? could be an american speaker with a british relative and they use the british definition of chips while otherwise mostly speaking american english.

there's a level of pragmatism in translation that needs to be assumed, and ultimately we have to accept that translated knowledge will always have low resolution. There is a layer of work that needs to be done with the source of the materials involvement to get written content to a level of formalism needed to be representative of the language it is written in. Generally, the work of editors. Which means successful translation for wide distribution, while still not guaranteed, is predicated on the editorial skills of the translator which begs for dialogue with the source.

Meanwhile, AI provides this super convenient band aid to get translation results you can't disprove.

I genuinely think people are severely underestimating the power held by these models for being translators and how literal truth is going to be determined by them deep behind the scenes under the disguise of accessibility. Not in a dangerous way necessarily, just in a way where what languages are and what words mean is going to shift towards whatever the models think they are.

In a way, over extended time, the models will not be wrong about the translations because their results will redefine what successful formal editing of language looks like, and disagreeing with them will amount to the same difference as having local slang.

Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by dyauspitr on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @12:47PM (#48296914)
Leaving out Indian, Southeast Asian and Arab cuisine means this is nigh useless.
Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by argee on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @02:01PM (#48298010)
There are 2,000+ varieties of mangoes alone. You could literally end up with a larger file using only mangoes.
Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by zeroimpl on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @03:39PM (#48299460)
Was going to give the same example with chili peppers. Tons of varieties and not exactly interchangeable
Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by buggymcbugfix on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @10:45PM (#48303768)
Thousands of cheeses, each of which is a unique experience. Heck, even the serving temperature completely alters the experience. Next: wines, charcuterie, ...

Pity the fool who can't taste the difference between any of these.

Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by momoschili on Thursday May 28, 2026 @12:37AM (#48304558)
there are thousands of varieties of a lot of things though...
Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by teleforce on Wednesday May 27, 2026 @11:11PM (#48303982)
It's worst than useless, it's borderline criminal /s

The fabricated title targeted the sensation rather than substance, typical scenario whenever "All" is in the title, and the worst when it's in the very first word.

Re:All of human cooking compressed into 2 megabytes by schemathings on Thursday May 28, 2026 @12:42AM (#48304588)
Use ChaatGPT