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Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by georgemcbay on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:43PM (#48254154)
> - i started watching football with my american friends

And I'd assume and hope parts of your native culture rubbed off on your American friends.

As someone whose ancestors have been American for quite a while (1850s) I can't make sense of the idea espoused by some on this thread* that "American culture" is something that needs to be strongly protected from changing and that's why we need to virtually lock-down immigration.

The feature that makes "American culture" powerful is exactly that it assimilates to the people who come here, not that they assimilate to it.

* (not you, this is just a convenient jumping off point for me to chime in on)

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:51PM (#48254201)
> I can't make sense of the idea espoused by some on this thread* that "American culture"

If you think that culture is substantive rather than superficial, then it follows logically. America is extremely successful. So it should be skeptical of cultural influence from places that are very unsuccessful.

> The feature that makes "American culture" powerful is exactly that it assimilates to the people who come here, not that they assimilate to it

But is that true? Massachusetts is one of the most functional states in the country. It is both affluent and prosperous, but also orderly and well governed. What’s a good part of Massachusetts culture that doesn’t come from the original British settlers and their descendants?

Wouldn’t New York City be a better city—cleaner, less corrupt, more orderly—if it was in Massachusetts?

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by georgemcbay on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:19AM (#48254334)
> But is that true? Massachusetts is one of the most functional states in the country. It is both affluent and prosperous, but also orderly and well governed. What’s a good part of Massachusetts culture that doesn’t come from the original British settlers and their descendants?

I spent the first 22 years of my life living in Massachusetts around the Boston area and a lot of my fondest childhood memories center around celebrating multiculturism: St Patrick's day parades in Southie, Saint Anthony's feasts in the North End, August Moon Festival in Chinatown, etc.

> Wouldn’t New York City be a better city—cleaner, less corrupt, more orderly—if it was in Massachusetts?

I don't think so, I also lived in NYC for a year in 1999 and have visited it many times before and since and found NYC a much more interesting and vibrant place than Massachusetts, though both have their charms.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by rayiner on Sunday May 24, 2026 @01:25AM (#48254669)
> I spent the first 22 years of my life living in Massachusetts around the Boston area and a lot of my fondest childhood memories center around celebrating multiculturism: St Patrick's day parades in Southie, Saint Anthony's feasts in the North End, August Moon Festival in Chinatown, etc.

Those are all superficial. Without those cultural influences, Massachusetts would still be basically the same state, just with worse food.

> I don't think so, I also lived in NYC for a year in 1999 and have visited it many times before and since and found NYC a much more interesting and vibrant place than Massachusetts, though both have their charms.

“Vibrant” is a euphemism for “chaotic and dirty.” Nobody ever says Copenhagen is “vibrant.” Massachusetts is objectively better than New York in almost every way. It has great schools while New York has shit schools, but Massachusetts spends 25% less per student. Massachusetts has much lower corruption, greater state capacity to perform public works, etc. Those are the measures of a place—not whether it is “vibrant” or “interesting.”

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by dwa3592 on Sunday May 24, 2026 @08:30AM (#48256737)
>> And I'd assume and hope parts of your native culture rubbed off on your American friends.

not that i know of, actually all the american friends i have made are super respectful of my native culture, especially the food and festivals.