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Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by Fnoord on Saturday May 23, 2026 @10:15PM (#48253671)
Yes, cruelty is -unfortunately- the point.
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by thehappypm on Saturday May 23, 2026 @11:46PM (#48254168)
Not cruelty, but politics. There is a stat going around that all of the job creation in the last two decades in the us have gone to foreigners.. so the idea is to basically let Americans have the jobs instead
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by lunchbucket on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:26AM (#48254361)
Maybe you should look into where statistics that are "going around" are sourced from. This seems to be something an anti-immigration lobby cooked to in 2014, which was an artifact of their analysis; they considered workers aged 16-65, and the effect disappeared if you considered workers of all ages.

Trump resurrected it in 2024 to claim that all job growth under Biden had gone to immigrants. It wasn't true then either.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by joshfraser on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:32AM (#48254388)
wait, how many workers fall outside the 16-65 range??
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by chimeracoder on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:54AM (#48254492)
> wait, how many workers fall outside the 16-65 range??

A little less than 10% of the workforce.

GP is correct - basically there was a report making that claim about the decline in employment rates of US-born workers over a certain time period. It was almost immediately debunked because it excluded workers older than 65, who are almost exclusively US-born, and excluding them heavily skews the average. Many of these workers also aged out of that bucket during that time period, which makes the comparison misleading, since the actual size of the studied workforce varied, and the workers who were excluded from the studied cohort were strongly correlated with the effect they were trying to demonstrate.

Furthermore, that effect is also exacerbated because of the uneven distribution of baby boomers.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by pjam on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:28AM (#48254371)
Do you happen to remember where this stat came from? I have not heard about it and would be interested in learning more about it
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by amarant on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:45AM (#48254451)
I'm not OP, but after many long hours of research, and oh so many vague references, i am now pretty sure that this is the original source:

https://youtube.com/shorts/29iZS4vAGV4?si=IhkMkEZweNv1uHro

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by thrawa8387336 on Sunday May 24, 2026 @12:37AM (#48254415)
No, this only makes it so that H1B and others are more at the mercy of their employers.
Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by thisisit on Sunday May 24, 2026 @01:04AM (#48254552)
This is going to be followed up with - DHS creates an “extraordinary” carve out for large tech companies and anyone who pays into Trump’s pockets.

And mid size companies hire foreign workers in foreign countries and accelerate offshoring.

People then talk about how government should restrict offshoring and punish companies while the Orange Man manufactures his phone and caps in China.

Surely a win for the people.

Re:Green Card Seekers Must Leave U.S. to Apply, Trump Admini... by portly on Sunday May 24, 2026 @02:59AM (#48255124)
Yes and one step further: it is attention, ultimately to extract wealth.

Trump is a distractor and can make a whole country forget about <insert recent insanity>. Passing a judge is a minor detail here.

Of course it is stupid to talent-leak your country but he just needs you to forget about $LATEST_SCANDAL. That's the value for him. Trump doesn't care about the future of US.

And distracting does not take skill. It only takes a mind poisoned to the core. He will throw anything in his chaos machine to extract wealth. And US has an endless supply of those juicy valuables and values that you can sacrifice and shed.

Let's see what next week has in store!