So what prevents the incompetent and lazy from immigrating?

Someone immigrating is almost certainly less incompetent and lazy than the median American. Immigration requires uprooting your entire life, and it requires entrepreneurial spirit and grit. That's why many immigrant groups dramatically out-earn American-born citizens.

TBH most immigrants I've met better embody the American spirit than most Americans.

What about the immigrant groups that don’t dramatically out-earn American-born citizens?

Why do you hate immigrants?

Also, beyond the US getting the benefit of motivated workers coming here and the intelligent ones, we’re brain draining other countries.

It’s a legitimate tool to weaken other countries worldwide and we’re just throwing it away because people believe the lies coming from people like JD Vance[1] about immigrants eating their cats and dogs

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/15/us/politics/jd-vance-spri...

Are you implying that we should be trying to weaken Haiti?

Yes, every other state actually if we can attract their best.

You immigrant hating America First losers are going to weaken the country because you think America is the best simply for being America and not because of all the effort and statesmanship put into making us the best.

Do you consider it humanitarian to further weaken a nation where the average gdp per capita is less than $3000 and who are in no way a threat to us? In what way do the immigrants arriving from there improve America? Can you give a coherent argument? I can easily argue the opposite from statistics:

From Census Bureau’s American Community Survey (ACS) and Annual Social and Economic Supplement of the Current Population Survey (ASEC CPS):

Of Haitian immigrants ages 25 to 64, 17.1 percent have not graduated from high school, 30.3 percent have only a high school degree, 30 percent have some college, and 22.6 percent have at least a college degree. This compares to 6.6 percent, 25.4 percent, 30.4 percent, and 37.6 percent for U.S.-born Americans. (2022 ACS)

Of households headed by Haitian immigrants, 52.7 percent use at least one major welfare program. For households headed by native-born Americans it is 28.4 percent.5 (2023 ASEC CPS)

So it’s clear that the previous immigration regime that allowed this was optimizing for something other than improving America or intentionally weakening rival countries.

Can you stop pretending you care?

Enough. Any more of this and we're banning the account. We don't care what your opinions are, but personal abuse is not allowed here, and just in the past three days your comments have included these phrases:

> Which nation state propaganda mill are you being paid from?

> You immigrant hating America First losers are going to weaken the country

> Not much more going on in that empty dome. Honestly the void your brain represents is kind of relaxing

> Fuck have you never even heard of the Jungle?

> You would be bitching and moaning just as much if Congress directly made these rules and regulations.

> You first, cultist

You've been here long enough and participated here enough that you know this is unacceptable. I don't want to ban you, but if you keep this up we have to assume that you want to be banned.

ill take a week off to cool down then

This is you in this thread: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions#Strategy

Asking basic questions about finances and job searches/security, perhaps? Do you have any original ideas or assertions to make, or do you only ask sealioning questions?