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Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by gmerc on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @10:16AM (#48208235)
Its very hard to be so naive.
Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by SR2Z on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @10:40AM (#48208675)
I think you are being ridiculous. Tampering with an LLMs pretraining is a difficult undertaking. There is plenty of evidence that training a model to walk the party line leaves it less capable than if it weren't.

It's not very subtle manipulation either; ask qwen of Taiwan is a part of China in German and in English and only the English answer will be party-approved.

Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by embedding-shape on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @11:54AM (#48209806)
Compared to what we have proof the US government have engaged in before? Do people not remember PRISM anymore? It was virtually impossible to think of the scope before it was leaked, and you'd be marked as a conspiracy theorist for believing that happened, before it was made concretely true.

I think it's borderline naive to assume various agencies haven't infiltrated OpenAI, Anthropic and others, essentially the entire world was wiretapped by NSA in the past, to assume they don't have an employee or two at these companies does seem a bit naive to me.

Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by logicchains on Wednesday May 20, 2026 @01:17PM (#48210974)
Agencies like the CIA have infiltrated the news agencies, so they have indirect power over the information that LLMs consume.
Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by italiansolider on Thursday May 21, 2026 @10:31PM (#48231281)
Yup, that's data poisoning on worldwide scale.
Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by SR2Z on Friday May 22, 2026 @03:42PM (#48240563)
So there's no reason for the CIA to poison LLMs at all then according to you?
Re:Qwen3.7-Max: The Agent Frontier by gmerc on Thursday May 21, 2026 @01:13PM (#48226026)
Tampering with pretraining is as simple as uploading a few pages to github. See pliny