Re:NYT and Vaping: How to Lie by Saying Only True Things (2022)
by like_any_other on Saturday May 16, 2026 @06:17PM
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> But please don’t take up the first comment on a gwern post to cheap shot the NYTs
I apologize for my lazy attack on NYT. Here is a more thorough attack:
An Algerian immigrant stabs 3 Irish children. NYT calls this a "rumour" that started a riot. Strictly speaking it was a rumour - it just happened to be true. Something the NYT omitted:
When Trump did not penalize the Saudis after the Khashoggi killing, the Times said Trump’s decision was “a stark distillation of the Trump worldview: remorselessly transactional, heedless of the facts, determined to put America’s interests first, and founded on a theory of moral equivalence.” - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/world/middleeast/trump-sa...
When Biden did the same: "For Mr. Biden, the decision was a telling indication of how his more cautious instincts kicked in, as the responsibilities of managing a difficult ally led him to find ways other than going directly after Prince Mohammed to make Saudi Arabia pay a price." - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/biden-mbs-kha...
When the muslim immigrant Ahmad Al Alawi Alissa killed 10 people in Boulder, Colorado, the shooter is referred to as a "gunman whose motives remain a mystery":
I apologize for my lazy attack on NYT. Here is a more thorough attack:
An Algerian immigrant stabs 3 Irish children. NYT calls this a "rumour" that started a riot. Strictly speaking it was a rumour - it just happened to be true. Something the NYT omitted:
The violence in Ireland’s capital on Thursday night was fueled by far-right agitators who spread rumors online about an attack on three children earlier that day. - https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/world/europe/dublin-riots...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Dublin_riot
NY Times title when a "story" (schoolyard scuffle apparently worthy of national attention) broke:
A Black Virginia Girl Says White Classmates Cut Her Dreadlocks at a Playground - https://web.archive.org/web/20190927202007/https://www.nytim...
The title after the story turned out to be a hoax:
Update: Virginia Girl Recants Story of Assault, and Family Apologizes - https://web.archive.org/web/20191001003852/https://www.nytim...
NY Times title after an islamic terrorist beheaded a teacher near Paris: French Police Shoot and Kill Man After a Fatal Knife Attack on the Street - https://web.archive.org/web/20201016193107/https://www.nytim...
When Trump did not penalize the Saudis after the Khashoggi killing, the Times said Trump’s decision was “a stark distillation of the Trump worldview: remorselessly transactional, heedless of the facts, determined to put America’s interests first, and founded on a theory of moral equivalence.” - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/world/middleeast/trump-sa...
When Biden did the same: "For Mr. Biden, the decision was a telling indication of how his more cautious instincts kicked in, as the responsibilities of managing a difficult ally led him to find ways other than going directly after Prince Mohammed to make Saudi Arabia pay a price." - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/biden-mbs-kha...
When the muslim immigrant Ahmad Al Alawi Alissa killed 10 people in Boulder, Colorado, the shooter is referred to as a "gunman whose motives remain a mystery":
‘I Know She’s Gone, but Why?’: Love and Loss at a Boulder Grocery Store - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/09/us/colorado-shooting-fune...
Gunman Kills 10 in Grocery Store - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/23/us/boulder-colorado-shoot...
One of the few stories by the Times that identifies the mass killer is titled "An Immigrant Family Caught Up in a Distinctly American Tragedy" - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/27/us/boulder-gunman-alissa....
But they're not shy about leading with race when white women do.. something: "How White Women Use Themselves as Instruments of Terror" - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/27/opinion/racism-white-wome...
I could list 3x as many examples, but there are only so many hours in the day for arguing online, so I hope this will suffice.