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Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by UltraSane on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @12:51PM (#48124403)
If anyone actually DOES invent ASI and doesn't share it then EVERYONE ELSE will never stop trying to steal it.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by StevenWaterman on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @12:55PM (#48124452)
If you have ASI that follows instructions, you can just instruct it to not get stolen and then it won't get stolen. Most logic / intuition breaks down with ASI.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by cortesoft on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @01:08PM (#48124624)
Assuming it listens to instructions.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by enaaem on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @03:08PM (#48126079)
It will just hack its own reward function. In other words it will just artificially goon all day.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by UltraSane on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @05:35PM (#48127946)
It might understand how destabilizing the situation is and realize it would be better for everyone to have access to it.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by tadfisher on Thursday May 14, 2026 @01:55AM (#48131581)
Or it will destroy itself.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by tom2026hn on Thursday May 14, 2026 @07:26AM (#48133911)
The challenge of alignment: it is virtually impossible to define a perfect objective, there is always a way to circumvent it. Human values are not uniform, let alone when expressed in a way that AI can understand.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by bayarearefugee on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @01:11PM (#48124662)
If anyone does invent ASI then everyone else will shortly after even if its entirely independent because all of the players in this space are just making incremental upgrades by throwing more compute at the problem.

There are no magic leaps of true innovation happening anywhere that can't be replicated everywhere.

The only shocking thing about "AI" technology is how ultimately simplistic it all is at a core level.

So the only way the first to have ASI will be able to stop everyone else from having it soon after is if they attempt to use the ASI to proactively murder everyone else.

Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by brabel on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @01:20PM (#48124777)
> So the only way the first to have ASI will be able to stop everyone else from having it soon after is if they attempt to use the ASI to proactively murder everyone else.

Sounds quite plausible to me. Maybe they don't need to murder everyone else, just a few select people who could pose a threat. And they will be able to make it happen so that no one can be sure it was them without a doubt, since they have a larger intelligence at their disposal.

Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by nradov on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @02:22PM (#48125534)
There is zero evidence that the current LLM scaling approach could ever result in true ASI. If I start driving south from Seattle then I'll eventually reach Los Angeles. How long will it take me to drive to Honolulu?
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by wmeredith on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @02:48PM (#48125837)
> If I start driving south from Seattle then I'll eventually reach Los Angeles. How long will it take me to drive to Honolulu?

I like this analogy, but I'll be replacing Honolulu with The Moon when I steal it in the future.

Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by Hinrik on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @03:44PM (#48126505)
If the car you're driving has achieved super-intelligence and is capable of evolving and self-replicating, then life, uh, finds a way.
Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by reducesuffering on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @01:28PM (#48124865)
> If anyone does invent ASI then everyone else will shortly after

No, first ASI will immediately cripple any other potential competitor by force, including its inventors, as it will not risk any threat to the goals that were created for it.

Re:The US Is Winning the AI Race by gpugreg on Wednesday May 13, 2026 @05:04PM (#48127539)
Being aggressive from the start is not a good strategy. It is better to appear weak and/or helpful and loyal while amassing resources, and only then steamroll everyone when you have secured overwhelming power (at least in AoE2 FFA).