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Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Monday May 11, 2026 @08:21PM (#48102583)
> The fixation on the term "genocide" has been a major own-goal for advocates of Palestinians

While I, and many others think that Israel is committing genocide, this is not an "own-goal". The only people playing semantics here are Zionists who are staunchly pro-Israel.

Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by tptacek on Monday May 11, 2026 @08:36PM (#48102686)
I think you're going to find that "everybody who does not agree with me on the precise particulars of my conclusions is foursquare in league with my opponents" is not the winning strategy it might feel like here.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Monday May 11, 2026 @08:43PM (#48102745)
It was you who made the claim that identifying Israel's actions as a genocide (as agreed upon by many genocide experts and international organizations) was an "own-goal". That is to say that by your logic, if you feel that Israel is committing genocide, you should keep quiet about it because you may turn some mythical constituency into a pro-Israel position by simply stating that opinion.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by tptacek on Monday May 11, 2026 @08:51PM (#48102820)
I don't think the pro-Israel position is "mythical", but I can imagine that if you go out of your way to stay in spaces that affirm your own beliefs it probably does feel that way.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Monday May 11, 2026 @08:53PM (#48102838)
I didn't say that the pro-Israel position is mythical. I said that no one became pro-Israel because people are saying that Israel is committing genocide. They were pro-Israel to start and just use that as a rhetorical device to try to get people to stop saying Israel is committing genocide.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by mhb on Thursday May 14, 2026 @09:00AM (#48134789)
What do you mean by "Zionists"?
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Thursday May 14, 2026 @08:34PM (#48143039)
The definition of Zionism is: people who believe Israel has a right to exist.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by mhb on Friday May 15, 2026 @09:24AM (#48148295)
So we're all Abolitionists? Pakistanists?
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Friday May 15, 2026 @12:53PM (#48150925)
I don’t understand your reply. What does Pakistan have to do with anything? Abolitionists? Abolish what, Israel? Sure, but I’ve never heard anyone refer to themselves like that.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by mhb on Friday May 15, 2026 @05:43PM (#48154301)
The point is that the term Zionist makes as much sense as Abolitionist. Abolitionists succeeded. Israel exists. Pakistan exists. If you support the extermination of Jews and the country of Israel, just say so. Pretending that "Zionist" means something is brain dead.
Re:Microsoft Israel chief leaves amid ethical controversy by lorecore on Friday May 15, 2026 @05:49PM (#48154359)
No one needs to be exterminated, they can just leave. And yes, I fully support (and demand) Palestine be returned to the Palestinians. No one is hiding from that position. Nazi Germany no longer exists and Israel will follow the same fate.