OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entries to jury

Re:OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entrie... by lesuorac on Wednesday May 06, 2026 @09:41AM (#48036135)

Yeah, the Framers of the constitution felt the same as you and the 5th amendment used to apply to your belongings as well so a diary you wrote couldn't be used against you.

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Re:OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entrie... by bonsai_spool on Wednesday May 06, 2026 @09:42AM (#48036151)

> your belongings as well so a diary you wrote couldn't be used against you

What's the history around this? And don't these protections only relate to criminal proceedings?

edit: seems the parent is referring to the historical entity of the mere evidence rule which isn't the same as saying that the Framers believed a certain interpretation for the 4/5th amendments.

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Re:OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entrie... by JackFr on Wednesday May 06, 2026 @09:55AM (#48036304)

The right against self-incrimination is limited in civil trials. Additionally, unlike criminal trials where a jury will be instructed that a defendant's refusal to answer cannot be construed as evidence, there is no such instruction in civil trials, and it is common to argue that a refusal to answer indicates hiding something.

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Re:OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entrie... by solomatov on Wednesday May 06, 2026 @09:43AM (#48036172)

Could you share links about this? When it turned into a different interpretation?

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Re:OpenAI president forced to read his personal diary entrie... by lesuorac on Wednesday May 06, 2026 @09:59AM (#48036354)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere_evidence_rule

(4th and 5th overlap here but I generally just cite the 5th as the reason why the 4th applies is because of the 5th)

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