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Re:DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price by ethbr1 on Saturday May 02, 2026 @04:55PM (#47990413)
> No creative effort was spent making it good at reverse engineering Oracle's database.

That's the bit that's going to be nasty in evidence. 'So you didn't have any reverse engineering in your training or testing sets?'

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Re:DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price by skeledrew on Saturday May 02, 2026 @10:22PM (#47992703)
Reverse engineering skill is just a byproduct of programming skill. They go hand in hand.
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Re:DeepSeek V4–almost on the frontier, a fraction of the price by ethbr1 on Sunday May 03, 2026 @10:11AM (#47997126)
Yes.

Which is going to be hard to explain to a judge and jury, if it comes to that, how despite investing time, money, and effort (and no doubt test cases) into making a model better at reverse engineering... they shouldn't be liable when that model is used for reverse engineering.

Afaik, liability typically turns on intentional development of a product capability.

And there's no way in hell I'd take a bet against the frontier labs having reverse engineering training data, validation / test cases, and internal communications specifically talking about reverse engineering.

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