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Re:Before GitHub by pxc on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @07:12PM (#47942132)
Huh? The usual pattern is that experiments belong to a user and then they graduate to having their own org iff they grow enough maintainers for that to make sense. How is that toxic or self-centered? It's just like "here's a place to do low-stakes experiments in public view". It's not particularly about ego or selfishness or whatever.
Re:Before GitHub by psychoslave on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @08:00PM (#47942503)
How is that self centeric to put someone in the center of the attention spot? It is pretty much the definition of a self centric attitude.

How it becomes toxic most of the time? Sociopaths will always have an edge to be on top of self centric pyramidal organisations. And those who starts nice people tend to get corrupted by the system which favor attempts to breed, threat and decive the small surface area in the center of the concentric power construction. Exceptional beings can certainly be pointed to show this is not the absolute fatality. Probably far rarer than sociopaths ready to harass them though.

Re:Before GitHub by estimator7292 on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @08:20PM (#47942652)
You are being a toxic asshole right now by accusing people of being sociopaths completely unprompted.

Honestly, pretty sociopathic behavior right here.

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Re:Before GitHub by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @02:49AM (#47944944)
> exposing

You’re not exposing any new ideas. You’re just attacking.

Re:Before GitHub by psychoslave on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @06:05AM (#47946238)
Not attacking any individual at least. Attacking in the sense of being critical of individualism as a louded ideology, and connecting technical artifacts to some form of individualism and likely outcome, yes definitely.

There is no need to pretend for novelty in such a critic, indeed. Just because we don't reinvent it on the fly doesn't make the use of arithmetic worthless.

Re:Before GitHub by Lammy on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @11:00PM (#47943725)
“Organizations” didn't exist until GitHub was already popular and entrenched, and it got popular and entrenched by centering the person developing the code instead of the code that was being developed: https://github.blog/news-insights/introducing-organizations/

And they weren't free until 2020: https://docs.github.com/en/get-started/learning-about-github...

Re:Before GitHub by Kwpolska on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @12:41PM (#47950861)
2010 is pretty early as far as GitHub history goes. Organizations were free, what wasn’t free was private repositories (but that applied to personal accounts too).
Re:Before GitHub by kelnos on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @07:55PM (#47942445)
What a weird take on what GP said...
Re:Before GitHub by Lammy on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @10:58PM (#47943715)
They hated him because he told them the truth
Re:Before GitHub by tom_ on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @11:02PM (#47943741)
Bruh.
Re:Before GitHub by psychoslave on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @02:19AM (#47944764)
Thanks for introducing me to a term I want aware of.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bruh for those who also wonder.

Re:Before GitHub by GroksBarnacles on Tuesday April 28, 2026 @11:18PM (#47943818)
The most insane response I've ever read here, so far.
Re:Before GitHub by alfg on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @12:10AM (#47944092)
Very strange take. A lot of software is built on trust and the people behind it. Hence why the social aspect of Github was so important to a lot of open source software.
Re:Before GitHub by LtWorf on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @02:08AM (#47944716)
I don't think it was important. It just came at a time when sourceforge was being heavily enshittified.
Re:Before GitHub by alfg on Thursday April 30, 2026 @09:55PM (#47970539)
There were many other options for git and version control in general at the time, though. GitHub made the onboarding to git much easier while using the platform as a social tool.
Re:Before GitHub by psychoslave on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @02:51AM (#47944951)
Hey, thank you for staying polite while expressing disagreement. That's much appreciated.

To the risk it might seem surprising, I actually completely agree that trust is essential to software creation and and use.

Actually I would more broadly frame it as, no trust, no viable sustainable society, no technical/cultural artifact.

But trust and societies can be realized without individualism as underlying chief paradigm.

That doesn't mean total negation of individual though. One alternative, among others yet different approches, can be state as a metaphor of individual like a cell in a social body. Thus the term metastasis, as when a cell starts to degenerate in self centric behavior at the expense of the health of the body as a whole. On the other hand, no cell, no body.

Re:Before GitHub by lpln3452 on Wednesday April 29, 2026 @12:37AM (#47944209)
Good grief. Now the YouTube Shorts crowd is showing up here too.