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Re:Waymo says expecting driverless taxis to stay out of bike... by HDThoreaun on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:47AM (#47918118)
I bike for 90% of my traveling. The examples you give for when cars break the rules vs what bikes do is telling. Yes, everyone breaks the rules, but cars (mostly) do it in safe and predictable manners. Most urban cyclists(including me tbh) break rules in very unsafe ways. Bikes routinely completely ignore stop signs even when there are cars waiting. The ignore red lights which cars never do. They swerve around in traffic, they ride on the sidewalk. Many refuse to use lights when biking at night. Urban biking behavior in the US is on average much more reckless than driving behavior.

Cars are more dangerous due to size and speed but if we’re just talking about who acts more recklessly and ignores more rules it’s easily bikes, at least in Chicago.

Re:Waymo says expecting driverless taxis to stay out of bike... by TulliusCicero on Monday April 27, 2026 @02:20AM (#47918308)
> Yes, everyone breaks the rules, but cars (mostly) do it in safe and predictable manners.

???

How is texting while driving safe? How is going over the speed limit safe? How is driving too close to other cars to stop in time safe?

Re:Waymo says expecting driverless taxis to stay out of bike... by HDThoreaun on Monday April 27, 2026 @02:27AM (#47918342)
Going over the speed limit is not even close to as reckless as completely ignoring stoplights which I see bikes do every day. I see bikers texting weekly even though you need 2 hands to confidently steer a bicycle. Drivers texting is dangerous because theyre controlling heavy machinery, but at least you only need one hand to steer a car in an emergency. A significant portion of bicyclists seem to have a death wish which I can only say for maybe 10% of drivers at most.
Re:Waymo says expecting driverless taxis to stay out of bike... by TulliusCicero on Thursday April 30, 2026 @11:58PM (#47971156)
> Going over the speed limit is not even close to as reckless as completely ignoring stoplights which I see bikes do every day.

True, it's not even close because going over the speed limit in a car is a lot more dangerous to others.

Blowing through stoplights on a bike is very stupid, of course, but 99% of the danger is directed towards the cyclist themselves, at least.

Note that the Idaho stop, though, is quite safe.