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Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by moneycantbuy on Sunday April 26, 2026 @05:16PM (#47914592)
endless greed is remarkable. guys with $200B can't afford to pay taxes to the state that allowed them to gain such excessive wealth in the first place, often via government subsidy. this cancerous version of capitalism can't end quickly enough.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by kelseyfrog on Sunday April 26, 2026 @05:29PM (#47914758)
If we don't allow them to hold us hostage they will all leave.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by VirusNewbie on Sunday April 26, 2026 @07:37PM (#47916019)
I think your sentiment is a good example of massive propaganda people fall for. The wealth tax in question would tax Sergey roughly 50 billion the first year as it is written now.

HE would have to sell his ownership of Google almost immediately. This isn't about paying taxes this is about forcing owners of companies to liquidate almost entirely.

Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by HaloZero on Sunday April 26, 2026 @07:52PM (#47916122)
How did you come up with 50 billion? It’s a 2% one time tax no?
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by VirusNewbie on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:56AM (#47922481)
No, Sergey owns non pubic, shares that are not available on the open market that have move voting rights. So the tax 'values' those at the % of voting rights as a percentage of the company valuation.

Likewise, Evan Spiegal would have to sell 100% of his SNAP stock the first year because of how the voting rights work.

Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by wbronitsky on Sunday April 26, 2026 @08:20PM (#47916327)
Sergei Brin is worth around $230b. The tax seeks around 5% of that, which is $11.5b. I don’t see how, when most of his net worth is in Alphabet stock, he would have to sell anything but trivial amounts of his ownership of the company to fund this. The tax is also one time, so saying things like “the first year” is extremely misleading. It seems to me like the real propaganda is your post.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by ashwindharne on Sunday April 26, 2026 @08:41PM (#47916456)
I believe it's calculated based on voting equity, of which Sergey owns significantly more than 230b.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by anamax on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:43PM (#47917163)
The "tax based on control" clause (quoted below) doesn't apply to public companies.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by VirusNewbie on Monday April 27, 2026 @12:38PM (#47923879)
Yes it does, it applies to any ownership of shares that are not traded on the public exchange. This means the shares the Google founders have, or Zuck, or the owner of SNAP, or any number of large companies founders would have to sell a significant portion.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by wbronitsky on Sunday April 26, 2026 @08:51PM (#47916528)
From my reading it is only equity that has monetary value that they are taxing; this has nothing to do with disgorging voting stock, it is merely intended to raise revenue.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by anamax on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:49PM (#47917191)
For private companies, valuation for the purposes of this tax is company-value * max(% owned, % controlled)

From https://oag.ca.gov/system/files/initiatives/pdfs/25-0024A1%2...

Section 50303(c)(3)(C) says "For any interests that confer voting or other direct control rights, the percentage of the business entity owned by the taxpayer shall be presumed to be not less than the taxpayer's percentage of the overall voting or other direct control rights."

Section (D) says that the tax applies to earnable profit-percentage even if the prerequisites for said earn haven't occurred.

Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by bdangubic on Sunday April 26, 2026 @08:23PM (#47916339)
the math is not mathing today
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by anamax on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:42PM (#47917155)
Google is public, so the 5% of max(ownership, control) clause doesn't apply.

However, there are a bunch of private unicorns whose founders are subject to the tax even though their ownership is well under $1B.

See Section 50303(c)(3)(C) quoted above.

Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by VirusNewbie on Monday April 27, 2026 @10:56AM (#47922487)
It does apply, because Sergey's shares are not the same kind available on the public exchange.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by soganess on Monday April 27, 2026 @01:19AM (#47917953)
Everyone seems to be objecting to the arithmetic error, but what’s more interesting is the underlying assumption: that “Sergey Brin owes $50B” is so morally dispositive that it would end the argument.

Brin is not a sympathetic marginal case. He is the standard: founder equity, $1 salary, unrealized appreciation, deferral, and access to liquidity without needing wage income.

It is a little strange to look at a very large tax bill landing at his feet and decide that is where the scandal starts. Is the number supposed to make the idea disqualifying because it is drastically more than most people make in many lifetimes?

Said another way, the revealing part is not that someone on the internet multiplied wrong. The revealing part is how quickly the error resolves into a fairness argument on behalf of Sergey Brin, a man whose fortune is almost a laboratory specimen of the thing the regular income tax keeps failing, decade after decade, to reach.

Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by ece on Monday April 27, 2026 @08:52AM (#47920944)
Not only this, but a person with this much wealth cannot possibly consume enough to pay their fair share in taxes. They've already used all the loopholes to avoid income taxes which aren't even progressive for billionaires as mentioned by Buffet.
Re:Sergey Brin Confronted Gavin Newsom by VirusNewbie on Monday April 27, 2026 @11:01AM (#47922551)
it's not an arithmetic error, it's literally written in the tax bill to value voting ownership shares as a percentage of the company if they are not available on the open market.

Section 50303(c)(3)(C) says "For any interests that confer voting or other direct control rights, the percentage of the business entity owned by the taxpayer shall be presumed to be not less than the taxpayer's percentage of the overall voting or other direct control rights."

Sergey Brin is not 'hoarding' anything. There is not a bank vault of jewels or wheat that the rest of the world is deprived of having. Stock 'wealth' is not a fixed quantity of wealth. To think that divesting people of ownership is egregious and immoral.

You are advocating for laws you do not read, regarding concepts of which you have not read about nor seem to be able to comprehend, and people like that are my enemy.