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Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by orochimaaru on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:01PM (#47880075)
There is no “ethical” company. They will tend towards making money by means that can be interpreted as being legal. Sometimes they will do things not legal - but those are calculated decisions based on how much the profit from said actions is compared to how much they will pay out as fines.

Ethics and laws are for chumps like us. Because we don’t have the financial and legal muscle to challenge the state.

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by ajkjk on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:06PM (#47880148)
this take is irritating because it implies that people at companies don't have to bother being ethical or holding the people around them accountable at a personal level for being ethical, as if it's somehow predetermined by the environment, being at a corporation, how you behave.

Certainly it's true that the incentives of corporations push you to ignore ethics. But that's why they're ethics: they're precisely the things you should do that you don't have to do. That's what morality is. Sure, for the purposes of doing things about unethical companies, it might be best to view all corporations as fundamentally unethical because that implies that the right place to make society better is by opposing their behavior with laws. But at an everyday human level everyone is responsible for exactly the things that they do and being at a corporation in no way changes it at all.

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by orochimaaru on Thursday April 23, 2026 @04:06PM (#47881070)
I’ve seen this time and again. The more money that a corporation or the leaders in there make, the less they’re worried about ethics.

It’s an irritating take. But personally I don’t move in the same circles as those making ethically dubious and partially legal decisions.

Do I want corporations to be ethical? Yes. Will I campaign for that and call my senator and congressman? Yes.

Are corporation lobbyists calling my congressman and senator with boatloads of money? You bet.

I don’t think everyone understands how disruptive privacy violations are. I think the best place to begin is start educating kids in high school about it, like they do for sex ed.

Am I willing to put money on the line and risk unemployment in the current market? Depends.

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by IneffablePigeon on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:17PM (#47880300)
Thank you for putting into words what I dislike about that refrain so eloquently. It’s a cop out.
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by _factor on Thursday April 23, 2026 @04:01PM (#47880989)
Being at a corporation normalizes sociopathy to some extent. The phrase: “It’s business, not personal”, outlines it well.

It is ok to harm another group of people financially and even personally because that’s what “business does”. Degradation being a ratchet that calcifies unethical behavior doesn’t help. Companies tend to get less ethical the older and larger they become.

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by JumpCrisscross on Thursday April 23, 2026 @04:07PM (#47881080)
> Being at a corporation normalizes sociopathy to some extent. The phrase: “It’s business, not personal”, outlines it well

The phrase essentially describes subsuming individuality in favour of group interests. You see similar refrains in militaries, monarchies, non-profits and HOAs.

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by davidw on Thursday April 23, 2026 @10:06PM (#47884658)
Especially HOAs.
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by satvikpendem on Friday April 24, 2026 @02:21AM (#47886314)
An irritating take can still be largely true simply due to how the incentives are set up.
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by ajkjk on Sunday April 26, 2026 @10:54AM (#47910838)
It's not about true or false. The point is that it's true if you're conceptualizing corporations as enemies to be handled and false if you're conceptualizing them as something you're part of that you're responsible for and you're trying to hold people accountable. The truth value is relative to your moral goal.
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by jimbo808 on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:08PM (#47880167)
As far as businesses go, I'd say Palantir finds itself somewhere between "extremely ethically dubious" and "overtly, transparently evil."
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by toomanyrichies on Thursday April 23, 2026 @05:21PM (#47882214)
I mean, this kinda pushes them past the "in between" phase and squarely into "overtly evil" IMO:

https://xcancel.com/i/status/2045574398573453312

Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by badgersnake on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:09PM (#47880191)
Re:Palantir employees are starting to wonder if they're the ... by sleepybrett on Thursday April 23, 2026 @03:11PM (#47880219)
sure.. but there is 'not ethical' and there is palantir...