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Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by keiferski on Thursday April 23, 2026 @02:35PM (#47879654)
Or just get a Moka pot, which is what most Italians use at home anyway. You can get a decent one for $30-50.
Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by zeech on Thursday April 23, 2026 @02:59PM (#47880049)
Moka pots don't make espresso though. True espresso requires ~9 bars of pressure to make. Moka pots can create at max 1.5 bars (though optimally it would hover between 0.5 and 1 bar).

So while they make very good, rich, full-bodied coffee, it's just not espresso.

Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by foobarian on Thursday April 23, 2026 @10:33PM (#47884807)
Not to detract from your point but the Bialettis also let you make a great cafecito
Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by SecretDreams on Thursday April 23, 2026 @10:44PM (#47884870)
It may not be true espresso, but I will ask my Nona every day for an espresso made from her probably 30 year old bialetti. When I'm drinking Moka, it's more about the vibes anywho.
Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by satvikpendem on Friday April 24, 2026 @01:34AM (#47885992)
I have an espresso machine (or had, recently sold) as well as a moka pot as well as many other coffee making gadgets like a V60 and an Aeropress. They all make different types of coffee and are not comparable. Sometimes if you want true espresso you need to use an espresso machine.
Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by tokai on Friday April 24, 2026 @06:00AM (#47888016)
But they make horrible coffee, and can by design only brew at the wrong temperature.
Re:The Ferrari of Espresso Machines Is Fueling a Hot Resale ... by kelipso on Friday April 24, 2026 @06:42PM (#47896714)
Thank you lol. I don't understand the love for Moka pot at all. You are guaranteed to get bitter coffee brewing at close to 212F. If you want simplicity, get a pourover or french press!