Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by eli on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @07:31PM
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Uber claims their drivers already meet the requirements, but if Uber doesn't register with CPUC how can they know if it's true? Are they supposed to take Uber's word for it?
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Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by eridius on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @07:43PM
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I don't know anything about CPUC so I can't really answer that question, but the lawsuit isn't about the licensing. The lawsuit is about Uber being "unfair", with no explanation for what that means. The only hint is that taxi drivers are seeing lower incomes, and the implication is that the lower incomes must somehow mean that Uber is being "unfair" rather than simply being a consequence of competition.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by eli on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @07:53PM
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Well, you should probably read the actual complaint before deciding anything. You can see the whole thing at the bottom of this article: http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/11/14/class-action-lawsui...
IANAL and I don't know if the lawsuit has merit, but there is slightly more to it then just someone stamping their foot and yelling, "Unfair!"
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by sk5t on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @08:52PM
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Unqualified statements of "X is unfair" are quite popular with unions in the northeast, to protest the hiring of any non-union labor. I guess one can't accuse them of libel or slander for accusations of "unfairness."
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by tedunangst on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @09:34PM
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Oversimplified summaries of 'Y said "X is unfair"' are quite popular on the Internet. :)
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by sk5t on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @10:36PM
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To clarify: trade unions hoist signs and distribute leaflets that literally say "[so-and-so] IS UNFAIR." It's the phrase "is unfair" to which I'm reacting--it's not a summary or simplification of anything else.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by Zak on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @09:38PM
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If you don't take Uber's word for it, don't use Uber. Given that there are alternatives available, I don't see the need for regulation here.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by uncompetence on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @10:51PM
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Except that's not how public safety works. Part of why this regulation exists is because having unregulated taxi drivers (at least to the judgement of lawmakers) poses a danger to everyone else on roads etc.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by ramanujan on Wednesday November 14, 2012 @11:49PM
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It surprises me that intelligent people are so ready to take bureaucrats and politicians at their word when they claim that "your safety is our priority".
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by evgen on Thursday November 15, 2012 @12:50AM
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Is it any less surprising than someone taking the word of a corporate entity when they use the exact same phrase?
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by Robelius on Thursday November 15, 2012 @03:36AM
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Yes! God forbid someone isn't as cynical about the government! I mean obviously regulators that are regulating the cabs are interested in making the government a profit to ensure that the gov is the most profitable organiza....wait a second. Oh yah, the governments role is to provide for the common welfare of this nation. Silly me.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by Zak on Thursday November 15, 2012 @08:16AM
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That's its role in theory, but in practice, governments are made out of people, and people don't always have the motives they're supposed to. A government official might be more motivated by a desire to protect the profits of his friend's taxi company than by what's in the interests of society as a whole.
It doesn't always work out this way, but I think in the case of companies like Uber, the interests of the company, the customer and society as a whole all align. To be able to make a profit, Uber needs to be perceived as safe. The most effective way to do that is to actually be safe.
Re:Lyft, SideCar, and Uber all slapped with $20K fines from ...
by pfortuny on Thursday November 15, 2012 @05:25AM
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You can just go to Peru, Bolivia or anywhere near them and check if you are insured whenever you get into a 'taxi'...