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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by ryandrake on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @12:39PM (#47851179)
> They do one thing: make as secure a phone OS as they can. That’s it. If you’re expecting them to do anything in a friendly way, it ain’t gonna happen, that’s not who they are or what they do.

These things are not mutually exclusive:

You can make a great technical product while being friendly. You can make a great technical product while not being friendly.

You can make a compromised or flawed technical product while being friendly. You can make a compromised or flawed technical product while being unfriendly.

This comes up pretty often in other HN threads, unrelated to Graphene. There's this weird personality type who insists that they aren't legally obligated to be friendly or nice or pleasant, therefore it's fine for them to be unfriendly or jerks or unpleasant.

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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by HybridStatAnim8 on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @03:40PM (#47853522)
GrapheneOS needs to defend themselves. If there were less attacks, there would be more friendly interactions. They dont currently have much a choice in sounding neutral and objective, due to the attacks.
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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by abnercoimbre on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @01:20PM (#47851722)
As a community organizer for systems programmers: welcome to my world! I've finally made some headway after a decade, helped by the mass layoff apocalypse. (Turns out social skills help you stay solvent.)
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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by 1attice on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @01:13PM (#47851611)
Actually, you can't make a great product if you've alienated your allies, because all successes are intrinsically social, from the iPhone to Python to even the processor itself.

Going it alone is that nineties libertarian romanticism, a persistent self-destructive tendency that in present market conditions is unsustainable

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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by HybridStatAnim8 on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @03:40PM (#47853528)
GrapheneOS has not alienated allies. Attackers are not allies.
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Re:Original GrapheneOS responses to WIRED fact checker by DANmode on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @05:47AM (#47861240)
What allies?

Their allies seem securely in place.

Their popularity and project support have never been stronger…

and they’re partnering with a (popular!) hardware manufacturer.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at...

Respectfully, what are you talking about?

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