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Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by hedora on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @02:15AM (#47845206)
Most artificial sweeteners have metabolic side effects, and lead to weight gain.

You’re probably better off drinking cane sugar soda because it is more filling than HFCS soda.

Anyway orange juice is probably better still. At least it has some vitamin C and maybe trace fiber in it.

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by jpfromlondon on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @06:30AM (#47846920)
no metabolic effects from sweeteners, wish you lot would stop moving the goalposts on why sweeteners are unhealthy:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12098100/

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by hedora on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @10:32AM (#47849379)
The abstract says the study is useless:

> However, given this study applied a heterogeneous ASB formula, it could not adequately consider the role of specific artificial sweeteners. Further research is needed to evaluate the potential effect of different artificial sweeteners and their doses on health.

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by jpfromlondon on Tuesday April 21, 2026 @11:07AM (#47849899)
it's also not the only study, just one example, besides that's standard boilerplate CE so as not to assume liability.
Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by Tagbert on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @02:26PM (#47867380)
Similar to the reports that talk about health problems with sweeteners. Not enough good data to be informative and actionable.
Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by m3047 on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @03:42PM (#47868309)
This just in, licorice kills dogs. Once in a while it kills people too. (affects insulin production, and aldosterone causing blood pressure effects then downstream effects on blood potassium and kidneys)
Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by lotsofpulp on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @03:28PM (#47868144)
>Most artificial sweeteners have metabolic side effects, and lead to weight gain.

I have not seen a single double blind study show this in the many decades low calorie sweeteners have been consumed (in normal amounts).

What I have seen is study after study showing the harms of consuming too many carbohydrates (the amounts contained in normal consumption of juice due to quantity of sugar).

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @03:58PM (#47868476)
> Most artificial sweeteners have metabolic side effects, and lead to weight gain.

So does sugar. Everything ever credibly published on the weight effects of artificial sweeteners say two things:

1) everything else held equal, they unequivocally reduce weight gain vs consuming equivalent sugar

2) they can increase appetite, causing you to possibly eat more

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by wun0ne on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @06:40PM (#47870239)
Sugar is not just empty calories. Your muscles need glycogen, which is produced from carbohydrates—including sugar—to function.

Simple sugars are particularly effective at restoring glycogen stores after intense cardiovascular workouts.

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by BugsJustFindMe on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @08:39PM (#47871053)
It seems you may not know what the phrase "empty calories" means, so, let me help: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empty_calories

Lumping simple sugar in with complex carbohydrates as equally beneficial because they're both carbohydrate molecules is horrendous prevarication. And bringing up "intense workouts" at all, which I'm sure you very well know is demographically an extreme outlier scenario, in a conversation about weight gain, is the most hilarious kind of derailment.

Re:Who Killed the Florida Orange? by Night_Thastus on Wednesday April 22, 2026 @04:06PM (#47868597)
There seems to be little to no evidence of any negative effects from just about any artificial sweeteners. I mean shoot, Aspartame immediately breaks down into some of the most common amino acids in the body. There's no biological mechanism for it to do anything negative.

Sugar, on the other hand, has very well known and studied health risks at the concentrations we see in a lot of modern 'staples' - soda and juice included.