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Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by necovek on Wednesday April 15, 2026 @01:07PM (#47782002)
We aren't saying anything you are implying.

You've started with a retort to a point that some who would never pay for some copyrighted work are not a loss to copyright owner if they illegally use their work.

You've since expanded to everyone and SW development, and want to extend it to people who are willing to pay for the value a particular work provides them.

So let's go back to the beginning: can you please quantify how big is a loss to the copyright owner if one watches a movie they would skip if the only option was to pay for it?

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by otterley on Wednesday April 15, 2026 @03:10PM (#47783765)
No, I'm not going to do that. And here's why: because if you have an excuse, everyone has an excuse. And if everyone has an excuse, the entire system falls apart.

I'll reiterate what I said above: entertainment and software are not life's essentials. Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by being denied access to them.

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by squigz on Wednesday April 15, 2026 @03:22PM (#47783942)
> Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by being denied access to them.

Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by us pirating them, either.

On the other hand, I bet there have been some pretty serious repercussions due to the sweeping bans like in TFA.

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by otterley on Thursday April 16, 2026 @04:08PM (#47798805)
> Nobody's going to be seriously harmed by us pirating them, either.

The logic here is quite simple: if you don't have to pay, nobody else has to pay, either, because you're not special. If nobody pays, then people who make media and software won't get paid, and production will slow to a crawl. You'll have destroyed the very thing you seem to desire enough to steal.

How does this not make sense to you?

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by squigz on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:25PM (#47800322)
Maybe because I'm not so arrogant as to imply everyone has to have the same views and act the same way as me, nor to imply that my view is the only right one.

But nah, you're right. Nobody has to pay. Everybody should pirate.

Now, that's been true for decades, of course. So why hasn't the entire system fallen apart?

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by otterley on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:45PM (#47800471)
> I'm not so arrogant

Believing oneself to be special and above the law such that one feels justified in trampling on others' rights is textbook arrogance.

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by squigz on Thursday April 16, 2026 @06:55PM (#47800559)
Not everyone in the world is subject to the same laws.

To say nothing of what all that means when those laws are unjust and themselves serve to trample on individuals' rights.

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by otterley on Thursday April 16, 2026 @08:08PM (#47801065)
> Not everyone in the world is subject to the same laws.

Are you?

> To say nothing of what all that means when those laws are unjust and themselves serve to trample on individuals' rights.

What rights are you speaking of, exactly?

Re:Spain to expand internet blocks to tennis, golf, movies b... by necovek on Saturday April 18, 2026 @02:28AM (#47813608)
They are not: if they never travel to Afghanistan or Ethiopia, they will not be subject to their laws.

Laws change even in the same region, so it is also temporal.

And one can work to change the laws too.

But it does not make sense, you have your pre-defined opinion and you are sticking with it, and we do not buy your argument, so it's best we agree to disagree here.