Israel hates negotiations. Netanyahu funded Hamas. And you're writing comedy and I just can't be bothered. You got me. No you didn't.

Only a Zionist would call equal rights and the right to self-determination a "maximalist" position.

Answer me one thing. Who will be the people who flow into Israel while the whole world sees the ugly state it has become?

A weirdly supremacist ethno-state is not a solution. It might seem like a good idea but I don't think it has legs to be honest.

> "Netanyahu funded Hamas"

I see this claim repeated over and over. You should be aware that it is false. As far as I am aware, Israel never funded Hamas. Israel allowed Qatari money to the Gaza authority to pay for civil servants, humanitarian aid and basic services, while it was run by Hamas.

> Only a Zionist would call equal rights and the right to self-determination a "maximalist" position.

To be clear, this was not Hamas’ position during negotiations.

> Only a Zionist would call equal rights and the right to self-determination a "maximalist" position

They had equal rights and self-determination in Gaza. For decades. They never built a society from it, instead begging the international community for food, and then starting a war they knew they would lose, only for the PR points of losing badly.

Where's a blockaded tiny slice of coastal land no more than a few miles wide with no water and no arable land supposed to even get food? Nobody is convinced by the "they're just beggars" racist stuff, man. Those poor people were actively expelled from their homes and continuously oppressed and have had their new homes flattened countless times. The fact those poor people still survive and try to rebuild each and every time shows that those people work hard.

Israel managed to build agriculture there, that's why they left all that agricultural gear that Hamas repurposed to making rockets.

> Nobody is convinced by the "they're just beggars" racist stuff, man.

Nobody is convinced by the "you're just racist" stuff, man.

It's physically impossible for land that small to grow enough food to provide for their population. Those people were driven from their land and forced into an incredibly tiny and unsustainable space. And the whole "They never built a society from it" thing is what the most extreme racists and slave traffickers said about Africans so they could justify their treatment of them. It's dehumanizing and absolutely disgusting way to talk about a group of human beings and people should be shamed for saying such things.

I wasn't saying they had to be self sufficient. I don't think Israel is either. You do have to have something though.

You're trying to argue from rage instead of facts and I'm not buying it. You can be as angry and insulting as you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the reason is that you jump to insults is that you don't have a point.

We DO need to free palestine. But from Hamas. From jihadism. That's what's killing them. Blaming Israel guarantees the kind of dysfunction that allowed Hamas to fester and jihadist nazism to be taught in UN funded schools.

'They had equal rights and self-determination in Gaza. For decades. They never built a society from it'

Uneducated statement by an uneducated user. Actually quite shocking. Information is free, educated yourself: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip

You might want to point out something specific. And why are people just blaming Israel when Gaza has a border with Egypt? The answer is obvious isn't it?

Whats the answer? bomb Lebanon?

The answer to why people are just talking about Israel when Egypt also ran the blockade.

Israel are unwilling or unable to hold to agreements and that makes them an unreliable partner. The same has been true of America with Iran.

Both Iran and America also have a maximalist approach in terms of use of remote weapons and reluctance to accept casualties. That limits the effectiveness of "might makes right". Massively more so in the larger Iran.

And whilst Gaza might seem like a collosal defeat it could be seen in a more positive light in a culture that views sacrifice as noble. Again same could be true of Iran.

List them. Every single incident.

Lol. No.

People really love this "might makes right" stuff till it's their civilians being killed in large numbers, then suddenly it's a problem.

Your arguments directly conflict

Not true. Hamas wanted to do hostage exchange for Palestinian women and children held in Israeli prisons and truce within the first week. Israel refused.

Other way around.