I understand this perspective a lot more. I assume they're going to haggle and work on a few items, and adjust pieces here and there. What if they at least get sanctions lifted, that would be huge, no? Going to be an interesting couple of weeks.

Who knew tech employees weren't exactly across international politics.

No it would be trivial to gain a thorough understanding of Middle East politics and the oil market for an enlightened people who were able to become foremost experts in epidemiology, molecular biology, global supply chain logistics, the war in Ukraine, semiconductor manufacturing, and many other fields entirely self-taught simply by obsessively reading social media and wikipedia.

"Infotainment" is the term I've heard to describe Reddit and other talking websites. People are looking to "win" like they do in sports or other recreational activities. It's a kind of fun that disguises itself as learning-- minus, of course, the actual work.

Team sports for the higher class

That's why people come here, they learn these things in the comments.

It's not the people who just come to learn though.

The community is not as sophisticated as you may perceive it to be.

> This 10 point plan is just a place to start talking

Its probably not even that. PR statements for public consumption rarely reflect bargaining positions behind closed doors.

Welcome to HN where users with little domain knowledge make comments of utter certainty about any topic under the sun.

Yeah. Exhibit A: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47688395

Safe but not open. The agreement Trump tweeted says ships must "coordinate" with IRGC.

Change this line from : "so basically Iran gets everything it wants"

to "so basically Iran would get everything it wants under this plan".

I'm not so dumb to understand that this will be the final plan, just commenting that this is incredibly bad for the US as is laid out.

> Any review of the actual deal would show a two week ceasefire in exchange for the strait being open and safe while negotiations continue.

Speaking of this community being kinda dumb - do you really think this ceasefire is enough for all ships to go on their merry way? Deals mentioned over social media are not enough to convince insurance companies that all is safe. And 12 hours later we now have evidence of this - https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/business/strait-hormuz-sh...

Also, my original point is that there is nothing in that deal that is a better long-term outcome than what we had before the war. Maybe that will change in the final deal, but the fact that the starting point of the negotiation is 100% on Iran's side is not where you want to be.