News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by throwatdem12311 on Saturday April 04, 2026 @12:54PM (#47640831)
You might not want to fight in the war but eventually the war might fight you whether you like it or not.
Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by itsyonas on Saturday April 04, 2026 @01:05PM (#47640973)
In the case of a typical war of conquest, fighting pretty much stops as soon as one nation surrenders. However, no nation state in the world asks, 'How can we save the most lives?', instead asking, 'Do we have enough people to send to their deaths to potentially preserve our monopoly of power?'

Of course, at the beginning of every war, some people genuinely believe that joining and defending the nation they live in is in their best interests, but these numbers quickly drop over time. As history and current events show, states start to use forced conscription in every prolonged war at some point.

Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by logicchains on Saturday April 04, 2026 @01:00PM (#47640902)
That's not true. When France surrendered in WW2 most French men didn't have to fight or die (unless they were Jewish).
Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by hdgvhicv on Saturday April 04, 2026 @01:08PM (#47641002)
99% of males in the U.K. avoided dying in ww2 - 380k military casualties vs a population of 47 million (and presumably 23.5 million male)

I’m assuming non military casualties were evenly spread between male and female.

Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by mr_toad on Saturday April 04, 2026 @05:28PM (#47643627)
Figures I’ve seen say over 700,000 casualties in the British Army alone.

3.7 million served in the Army, which is a fairly high proportion when compared to the age range suitable for military service. Add in the Navy and RAF and you get to nearly six million. Those that didn’t serve were generally needed at home - roles like doctors, miners, police, or were too young or too old to fight.

The British, unlike many European countries, had time to mobilise those forces. Had they lost the Battle of Britain and had Germany commenced a land invasion of Britain then it’s likely the numbers would have been a lot lower.

Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by mothballed on Saturday April 04, 2026 @01:08PM (#47641011)
That was also true of much of the feudal or monarchist European wars in the centuries before WWI. In the near term before the "democratic" era around WWI wars war largely seen as wars of the aristocracy and armed forces. Merchants could usually ~freely come and go between countries at war and you could generally pass to a country you were at war with without common people seeing you as an enemy. Wars also tended to be less "all or nothing" where the other side was evil and had to be destroyed and were seen more as property and rights disputes of the elite where armed force was a negotiating tactic or strategic use to assert some particular right.

It wasn't until the scam of 'democracy' fooled people into thinking war was against the actual people of the other country that they not only scammed everyone into having such buy-in and stakes for the war but also to view the other countrymen themselves as the enemy. People started viewing the nation of themselves because their laughable miniscule influence of their vote somehow means the government is of them. (Note this was a resurface of course, there were times in history where war was seen as against a peoples rather than of the elite).

Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by suddenlybananas on Saturday April 04, 2026 @01:23PM (#47641168)
Stop reading Curtis Yarvin's pseudo-history. Like 8 million people died in the Thirty Years War before modern democratic states, and there's plenty of other examples.
Re:German men 18-45 need military permit to leave country fo... by samus on Saturday April 04, 2026 @05:53PM (#47643875)
> unless they were Jewish

Cold comfort. Just decide to not be of Jewish descent then. Who would have known it's so easy to escape the attention of the Gestapo! /s