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Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by tialaramex on Saturday April 04, 2026 @05:46AM (#47637535)
No. Evolution is not "tuning" it's just statistics at a huge scale. The high likelihood of back pain, the lack of important sensors, broken synthesis pathways, this is not a carefully tuned system, this is just blind luck plus statistics. Which means we can do better because we're purposeful.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @06:36AM (#47637810)
>we can do better because we're purposeful.

"Purposeful" does not help if we are mostly clueless.

Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by lifeisgood99 on Saturday April 04, 2026 @07:50AM (#47638213)
There's no wise guiding force behind evolution. It's all guesswork.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @08:07AM (#47638324)
It might be guess work, but it has got a ruthless filter called natural selection and really long time to get here.

So I don't see your point. It is really tuning for surviving within the constrains.

Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by senordevnyc on Saturday April 04, 2026 @03:25PM (#47642419)
And the constraints are very different now…
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @10:46PM (#47645690)
Maybe, but that does not mean that it is possible to work around evolution to change ourselves to fit better with the new constraints.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by senordevnyc on Sunday April 05, 2026 @04:32PM (#47653591)
There's no reason to believe that's true, that there some inherent reason we can't change our selves to better fit our new environment. Arguably that's exactly what humans have been doing now for tens of thousands of years.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Monday April 06, 2026 @11:30PM (#47670410)
The reason is that we cannot fully figure how evolved systems work. Let me explain..

Let x be the set of all physical behaviors in nature. At any point in time, we (human beings) are aware of a subset of x, let us call it y.

When a human entity design a system, they can only use the behaviors in y. But an evolved system could potentially use all of x. This means that we will never be able to know everything required to safely modify an evolved system.

Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by cassianoleal on Saturday April 04, 2026 @08:07AM (#47638323)
There's no guessing force behind evolution. It's just statistics at scale.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @08:08AM (#47638332)
Yea, so what is the point in this context?
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by glenstein on Saturday April 04, 2026 @08:31AM (#47638482)
We know enough specific things about immunology and about the illnesses we're trying to avoid to be something more than clueless and we're learning more all the time, including about the potential applications of "everything vaccines" that are being tested for potential programmatic use.
Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @08:46AM (#47638595)
Don't we have a problem of ever increasing auto-immune diseases? If we know "enough" then I think we should be able to make it go away. Until that happens, I don't think humanity can claim to know "enough".

Also, evolved systems are hard to reverse engineer.

https://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/

If something simple like an electronic circuit with comparatively short evolution can end up with mysterious, un-intutive and complex inter-dependent behavior, imagine how non-understandable an immune system that evolved over millions of years can be..

So I still think we are mostly clueless, and it is nearly impossible to safely engineer changes into something that was not engineered in the first place...

Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by glenstein on Saturday April 04, 2026 @11:26AM (#47639845)
I would flip that framing around entirely. If we were clueless, we would not have had a centuries worth of progress of any kind whatsoever, let alone be brought to the point of testing general purpose vaccines, something that would have been unthinkable perhaps even a decade ago.

Electricity is a convenient example, because it's indisputable that we have leveraged it to do real work based on real understanding. I suspect any and every area of knowledge is subject to a kind complexity crash where the combinations of variables outstrip our ability to track them. But treating that like it negates the knowledge we do have is almost literally what it means to miss the forest for the trees.

Re:Scientists are working on "everything vaccines" by qsera on Saturday April 04, 2026 @12:06PM (#47640271)
It does not negate the knowledge that we do have. But we should also acknowledge that certain undertakings are impossible to do safely with the amount of knowledge that we do have.