The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shirts than records'

Re:The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shir... by georgeecollins on Thursday March 26, 2026 @11:35AM (#47531810)

I think all this talk of entertainment economics is missing the point of the article. Yes, today bands more money from tshirts then recordings. However, in the 70s and 80s they typically made a lot of money from LPs and CDs. In the time of the Ramones, that was how bands made money.

The point is that punk rock was culturally very influential but never very musically popular. God Save the Queen was a hit record but that is the outlier.

I think it is useful to consider that a lot things that endure are not the things that were popular at the time, particularly with music. I saw the Pixies at the Hollywood Bowl a couple years ago and it occurred to me that when they had recorded the songs they are known for I saw at venues not much bigger than bars. They were never really that popular. Or Elliot Smith, who was seriously obscure in his short lifetime.

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Re:The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shir... by Triphibian on Thursday March 26, 2026 @12:10PM (#47532274)

The argument has been made that punk finally broke in '91 with Nirvana and then Green Day and myriad other pop punk bands selling records. And there's also a case for the bands, especially of the '77 era New York scene breaking, but doing it by playing less textbook punk-sounding music (Blondie, Talking Heads, etc).

I do think The Ramones were robbed in way. If radio at the time wasn't ready for them, classic rock radio now should be. Most of them play The Clash already.If Blitzkrieg Bop is too weird or raw, "Rock 'n Roll Radio" is polished enough that it would fit right in.

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