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Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday March 22, 2026 @11:38PM (#47485249)
White European culture, and including the USA, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, South Africa and Zimbabwe before they turned to shit.

Freedom of expression, not executing gays or hunting them for sport; the end of slavery, universal suffrage, space exploration, being able to criticise the government.

Am I allowed to have an opinion?

If it differs from yours?

Diversity. So long as I conform?

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by archagon on Sunday March 22, 2026 @11:58PM (#47485369)
What do you mean by European? Because as someone with Slavic heritage, I'd rather you excluded my culture from your nonsensically aggregated "Western European" culture. You don't get to claim Dostoyevsky, Pushkin, and Solzhenitsyn just because the color of our skin has a similar shade. In terms of religion, the Orthodox Church only has surface-level overlap with Evangelical Protestantism. And much like the Irish, Polish, and other "less desirable" European ethnicities, we weren't even considered fully white until sometime in the 20th century.

Europe is a massive melting pot, not some single, monolithic "culture." In fact, I have much more in common with my Latino neighbors than the WASPs having conniptions over the purported decline of "white culture."

> the end of slavery

Lol, lmao. Well, it's pretty obvious what fetid corners of the web you lurk in.

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday March 23, 2026 @02:24AM (#47486023)
Funnily enough, the part of Australia I grew up in had and has a very successful set of communities of Croatian, Yugoslavians, Ukrainian, Polish, Italian, and Greeks.

In other nearby regions Slovenians, Lebanese, Vietnamese, Chinese, Taiwanese, Filipino, Indians, Pakistani, Nepalese…

Have all managed to end up co-existing, build businesses, even to the extent that we’ve got along well enough to build a nation together.

And yeah, I actually don’t know anyone who owns slaves around here. I’ve met people from all over Europe and the USA and none of them own slaves or are involved in the slave trade.

Australian doesn’t have forced labour prisons, it’s optional and the inmates gain additional benefits for their labour and the potential to have their custodial sentence reduced.

But anyway, the whole point isn’t to say that I don’t like brown people.

The point is to goad people like you to claim I live in some fetid corner.

Simply for saying I’m white, and I’m proud of what my ancestors have accomplished.

My Dutch and Italian ancestors left their home lands and have become know throughout the word as very successful farmers pretty much everywhere they’ve settled.

But thats not an okay thing to say.

It’s okay to be black a proud, LGBTQI+ and proud, it’s okay to sterilise children, mutilate their genitals, give them cross-sex hormones, it’s okay to be a proud Australian Aboriginal.

It’s okay to tax the working class, it’s okay to artificially restrict the supply of housing.

But if you’re white, you are guilty of things you didn’t do, and owe reparations to people who didn’t have it happen to them.

If your white and proud, your a Nazi. You drink Elon’s cum for breakfast, and enjoy eating babies with your Jewish handlers in Sundays.

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by defrost on Monday March 23, 2026 @02:35AM (#47486078)
On the one hand, I do know where you're coming from, on the other ...

  White European culture [..] including [..] Australia, Canada, South Africa and Zimbabwe before they turned to shit.

  Freedom of expression, not executing gays or hunting them for sport; the end of slavery, 
Congrats, you've named places that in my lifetime have had effective slavery (stolen generations, imposed domestic servitude) and the freedom to hunt and execute gays (illegal, but common and commonly overlooked).

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_gang_murders (in an about Sydney since the 1970s)

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:58PM (#47497793)
I’m from Adelaide, so I’m well aware of the gay bashing and “suicides” that happened in Australia.

But as you put it: had

We’re not still doing those things, are we? And if they do happen we’re going we’re not turning a blind eye to them, are we?

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by defrost on Tuesday March 24, 2026 @12:00AM (#47498463)
Up thread you were metaphorically salivating over times past:

  White European culture, and including the USA, New Zealand, Australia, Canada, South Africa and Zimbabwe before they turned to shit.
and positively proud of

   I’m white, and I’m proud of what my ancestors have accomplished.
So, it's not about what we have come to _now_, it's the bald fact that you're seemingly onboard with times past:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coniston_massacre

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinjarra_massacre

etc.

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by tomhow on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:41PM (#47497670)
You've been on HN long enough to know that this kind of discussion is not what HN is for. This comment breaks these guidelines:

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes.

Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by TheSpiceIsLife on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:53PM (#47497760)
Would you have responded in this manner in your capacity as a HN moderator if I were expounding the virtues of Islam?

Or is it only white Christian people who are not allowed to say anything positive about the countries they live in.

Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by tomhow on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:58PM (#47497789)
Yes, we uphold the guidelines no matter what “side” the commenter is on, and, yes, we flag/kill comments and warn or ban users who engage in battle over race or religion, regardless of who they’re for or against. Stop poisoning HN with this kind of rhetoric and stop trying to deflect from your own disrespect of this site and its guidelines. The whole reason HN is something anyone thinks is worth defending is that we have guidelines and we uphold them consistently, regardless of topic or side. If you want to participate here, we need you, like everyone, to make the effort to raise the standards rather than drag them down.
Re:Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exerci... by tomhow on Monday March 23, 2026 @09:43PM (#47497685)
Please don't respond to an inflammatory comment with another inflammatory comment. Flamewars about the relative merits of racial/cultural groups is the kind of bottom-of-the-barrel internet dreck that we're most trying to avoid here. Please don't perpetuate it even if it's others who've started it.