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Re:I Hate: Programming Wayland Applications by cies on Sunday March 22, 2026 @12:35PM (#47479260)
Which is kind of understandable as Wayland tries to be more secure: and thus in Wayland not all keyboard events are propagated to all applications (that's what X11 does). I think it's a good idea to put security first in this iteration of FLOSS desktop technology.
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Re:I Hate: Programming Wayland Applications by MarsIronPI on Sunday March 22, 2026 @02:17PM (#47480441)
Phoenix[0] has some good ideas about how X11 could be made more secure without breaking backwards compatibility. I don't understand what was so fundamentally broken about X11 as a protocol that it required a replacement protocol.

We can argue about limitations of X.org's implementation of the X server, but, as demonstrated by Phoenix, X.org doesn't have to be the only X server implementation.

[0]: https://git.dec05eba.com/phoenix

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Re:I Hate: Programming Wayland Applications by javier2 on Sunday March 22, 2026 @02:34PM (#47480607)
I have no idea, but my impression was that basically nobody wanted to put in work on X11 anymore.
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Re:I Hate: Programming Wayland Applications by IshKebab on Sunday March 22, 2026 @12:53PM (#47479483)
Well kind of. It'll be several decades before we see any practical benefits - at the moment once you have local execution you can do anything you want - accessing other apps or even root is trivial.
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