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Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by cwnyth on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:07PM (#47449993)
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by kingaillas on Thursday March 19, 2026 @11:19PM (#47450076)
That post is 3 years old, so basically around 1 year into the Steam Deck's release.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by cwnyth on Friday March 20, 2026 @12:10AM (#47450389)
And yet, Cities Skylines still (last tried: about 2 months ago) crashes for me when I try to load it in Wayland on Fedora, which has removed Xorg from its updates.

Wayland has broken dozens of my Steam games.

Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by esseph on Friday March 20, 2026 @05:23AM (#47452291)
I just played Skylines last night via Proton-GE. AMD GPU. Fedora 43. Gnome.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by cwnyth on Friday March 20, 2026 @08:33AM (#47453661)
CS1, right? If so, can you please detail what you might have done differently?Load options? Some package or another I might be missing? All I know is that with Xorg it worked perfectly, I upgraded Fedora, and now that I only have Wayland, whatever I was doing before no longer works. I'd be grateful for the help.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by esseph on Friday March 20, 2026 @01:13PM (#47457572)
I am using a system-installed Steam, but sometimes a Steam Flatpak can help with troubleshooting, because it bundles components inside of the flatpak. Running games this way may give you a 5% performance penalty, but it's a good way to see if you have a packaging issue (other things needing installed, or misconfigured).

Also are you running th Linux native one or the proton version?

I run everything through Steam with the proton compatibility layer forced. It's a steam client option somewhere.

I think they're an app called ProtonQT or something like that. It will enable you to easily download the latest proton-ge version. Once downloaded and installed you will need to restart the steam client, then restart the steam client again after selecting the new proton-ge version as the default.

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https://www.protondb.com/app/255710

Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by cwnyth on Friday March 20, 2026 @01:49PM (#47458097)
I'll try again. I tried both native Linux and a dozen Proton builds, and none would load, even with no mods or DLC. I'll try again with the latest, and if that doesn't work, I'll try the flatpak instead of via RPM Fusion.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by esseph on Friday March 20, 2026 @02:49PM (#47458916)
There is a note on protondb about needing the most recent proton-ge release. Use ProtonQT flatpak, should help you install / maintain proton-ge versions. Will get you the latest updates as they release.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by genthree on Friday March 20, 2026 @02:25PM (#47458617)
The Steamdeck loads games into some kind of nested x11 renderer-in-a-window, I think. If for no other reason than to try to avoid Wayland’s extra input latency? Dunno. Maybe you lost some component it needs to work, if regular Steam also does that.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by esseph on Friday March 20, 2026 @02:49PM (#47458906)
Regular steam does not do that. At this point on most hardware (minus SOME Nvidia, I think older stuff like 2XXX) you should have less latency in Wayland than x11.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by genthree on Friday March 20, 2026 @03:13PM (#47459257)
I was under the impression that some of the anti-screen-tearing and other features in Wayland unavoidably set a higher (and, higher-enough to be noticeable in some contexts) floor on latency, though, because of how those features necessarily work. I don't mean drivers.
Re:Wayland set the Linux Desktop back by 10 years? by esseph on Saturday March 21, 2026 @12:09AM (#47463893)
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