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Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by coglethorpe on Monday February 09, 2009 @12:16PM (#473750)
It's not a healthy situation, but that's largely due to the poor results other search engines provide. I tried using Yahoo! and Live for a while instead of Google. I had forgotten how awful the results were. It wasn't the formatting or the speed, but the lack of relevance the results had to my query. It's no wonder people don't use Google's competitors.

In the mean time, the rest of us have to pray that our site is considered "relevant" in Google's eyes.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by inerte on Monday February 09, 2009 @12:46PM (#473823)
It's not even the results for some people, but Google itself.

I've seen studies where the researchers show Yahoo results on Google's template, and vice-versa, and people still thought that Google had better results.

Google is a brand nowadays (and a verb ;). The tech will become secondary in a near future. It's like Coke vs. Pepsi, they taste 99% alike and blind tests show costumers have no preference on one over another.

I am not saying they don't have an edge on quality these days, but in the future, just relevant links on the page that appears after you type your search terms will not be enough.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by axod on Monday February 09, 2009 @12:54PM (#473837)
Slightly off-topic, but:

"It's like Coke vs. Pepsi, they taste 99% alike and blind tests show costumers have no preference on one over another."

Sorry, but that's completely wrong. Pepsi is far sweeter. It wins on taste tests, whilst Coke wins in some tests where people drink an entire can.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cola_wars

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by inerte on Monday February 09, 2009 @01:30PM (#473900)
I stand corrected, thanks for the Cola war insight :)

I guess I let out my own personal taste and bias and some faulty memory...

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by Dobbs on Monday February 09, 2009 @01:54PM (#473961)
Not faulty memory just accepting a common myth/advertising. It wasn't until recently that I was informed of the truth of why the pepsi/coke taste test works out the way it does.
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by axod on Monday February 09, 2009 @01:39PM (#473922)
;) I actually can't stand the taste of Coke, but love Pepsi with a passion. Some people think I'm weird/being petty, but it's just a different taste.
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by axod on Monday February 09, 2009 @03:05PM (#474079)
(Reply to Zack who's comment is dead):

You can tell even by the smell. Perhaps you think I'm lying, but when served a brown fizzy drink in a cup, I can tell with 100% accuracy wether it is Coke, Pepsi, Diet Pepsi, or Pepsi Max.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by twopoint718 on Monday February 09, 2009 @05:25PM (#474270)
I don't know exactly why but that sounds very funny to me. I would boast of this ability all the time.
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by axod on Monday February 09, 2009 @05:44PM (#474316)
The long winter evenings of blind taste testing at our house simply fly by ;)
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by froo on Monday February 09, 2009 @10:14PM (#474632)
Yep, I have this ability too - I thought I was the only one!
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by bad_user on Monday February 09, 2009 @05:45PM (#474318)
I like Coke more because Pepsi is too sweet for me.
Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by Tichy on Monday February 09, 2009 @02:49PM (#474053)
"I've seen studies where the researchers show Yahoo results on Google's template, and vice-versa, and people still thought that Google had better results."

Just to clarify, I suppose you mean people thought the Google site with the Yahoo results was better than the Yahoo site with the Google results?

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by inerte on Monday February 09, 2009 @03:28PM (#474112)
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Yahoo search results on a Google webpage were considered more relevant than Google search results on the Yahoo webpage!

Google is a brand. Some people automatically think it's better.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by chris11 on Monday February 09, 2009 @03:54PM (#474161)
I checked this out, searching for nytimes.com with yahoo google and Microsft. The results were mostly the same.

All sets of top ten results were from nytimes.com. The layout was almost the same, in fact it looked like Google and Yahoo were based on the same template. The speeds for yahoo and google were basically the same. Microsoft seemed a tiny bit slower, but they didn't mention the actual speed of the search, so I don't know for sure. The number of results were different. Microsoft had 1.8million, Google had 32million, and Yahoo had 59 million. Google had a mini search bar under the first result, nytimes.com, that let you search in the site. That feature is nice. Even though the sites are almost identical, I still preferred Google's results. The other sites seemed ugly.

I'm not sure why that is. It could be that I have used Google for awhile, and just gotten used to their format. Or, it could be that Google does more effective research on how users interact with the site.

For example, I remember seeing the video from Google tracking eye movements while searching. The eye movements were mainly focused on the top left corner of the search result. Yahoo's site design interfered with that eye movement. They have a giant red Yahoo in the top right corner. It stands out, and I think it is annoying and distracting.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by mhartl on Tuesday February 10, 2009 @10:04PM (#476431)
A few months ago I switched to Yahoo! Search as an experiment. I'm quite confident that, if you'd replaced the Yahoo! branding with Google's, I would never have known the difference.

But yet I switched back. Why? I was hosting the Silicon Valley Rails meetup, and our speaker Emmett Shear (of Justin.tv) had forgotten to bring his laptop, and had to borrow mine. I was so uncomfortable at the idea of my home page---Yahoo!, of all things, and not Google!---being broadcast to a room of Rails hackers that I changed it back to the Canonical Choice. And now inertia has returned, and I'm back in the warm bosom of mother Google.

I'm pretty sure that Yahoo! Search and Live Search are basically as good as Google nowadays. When it debuted, Google was qualitatively better than any other search engine, but today Google's lead is based mainly on branding.

Re:The Elephant in the Room: Google Monoculture by aneesh on Tuesday February 10, 2009 @01:51AM (#474846)
Try again now. Both Yahoo! and Live are pretty close to Google right now in terms of relevance. Branding is another story, but the results aren't bad.