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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by joshuamorton on Monday March 09, 2026 @11:48PM (#47318895)
Everything you've said applies to parking tickets too. You can't prove that the owner parked the vehicle.

Tha owner is ultimately civily liable if the vehicle is parked in a way that it shouldn't be. Extending that same civil liability to the active operation, as opposed to only the consequences of active operation, seems perfectly reasonable.

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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by sjtgraham on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @04:31AM (#47320505)
The key difference is a parking ticket isn't $500.
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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by joshuamorton on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @12:30PM (#47325479)
The mentioned fines are $1-200, which is in the same range as parking tickets.

I think the best argument is that license points are criminal in nature, but I don't really buy that.

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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by joshuamorton on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @04:02PM (#47328100)
And in fact the law at issue doesn't even assign points.
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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @08:40AM (#47322461)
> Tha owner is ultimately civily liable if the vehicle is parked in a way that it shouldn't be. Extending that same civil liability to the active operation, as opposed to only the consequences of active operation, seems perfectly reasonable.

As this judgement reveals, such a suggestion is patently unreasonable, for the reasons listed in the judgement

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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by joshuamorton on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @11:56AM (#47324998)
Having read the judgement, I disagree!
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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by joshuamorton on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @04:01PM (#47328093)
Having read the order, it doesn't really justify the central claim, that these are criminal, and in my opinion a lot of the context cuts against that (the liability being only a fine and some other things).
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Re:Florida judge rules red light camera tickets are unconsti... by ImPostingOnHN on Tuesday March 10, 2026 @07:27PM (#47330088)
That is a fair view to hold as a prior. Indeed, the judge took that context into account when judging that it was a criminal matter. Other states which do things differently might have received a different judgement based on their own context.
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