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Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Wikipedianon on Thursday March 05, 2026 @12:20PM (#47264408)
This was only a matter of time.

The Wikipedia community takes a cavalier attitude towards security. Any user with "interface administrator" status can change global JavaScript or CSS for all users on a given Wiki with no review. They added mandatory 2FA only a few years ago...

Prior to this, any admin had that ability until it was taken away due to English Wikipedia admins reverting Wikimedia changes to site presentation (Mediaviewer).

But that's not all. Most "power users" and admins install "user scripts", which are unsandboxed JavaScript/CSS gadgets that can completely change the operation of the site. Those user scripts are often maintained by long abandoned user accounts with no 2 factor authentication.

Based on the fact user scripts are globally disabled now I'm guessing this was a vector.

The Wikimedia foundation knows this is a security nightmare. I've certainly complained about this when I was an editor.

But most editors that use the website are not professional developers and view attempts to lock down scripting as a power grab by the Wikimedia Foundation.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by gucci-on-fleek on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:55PM (#47267157)
> Any user with "interface administrator" status can change global JavaScript or CSS for all users on a given Wiki with no review.

True, but there aren't very many interface administrators. It looks like there are only 137 right now [0], which I agree is probably more than there should be, but that's still a relatively small number compared to the total number of active users. But there are lots of bots/duplicates in that list too, so the real number is likely quite a bit smaller. Plus, most of the users in that list are employed by Wikimedia, which presumably means that they're fairly well vetted.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&...

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by notRobot on Thursday March 05, 2026 @05:26PM (#47268147)
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by gucci-on-fleek on Thursday March 05, 2026 @05:32PM (#47268203)
Those are the English Wikipedia-only users, but you also need to include the "global" users (which I think were the source of this specific compromise?). Search this page [0] for "editsitejs" to see the lists of global users with this permission.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalGroupPermissions

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Wikipedianon on Thursday March 05, 2026 @06:49PM (#47268850)
There shouldn't be any interface admins as such. There should be an enforced review process for changes to global JavaScript so stuff like this can't happen.

I'm sure there are Google engineers who can push changes to prod and bypass CI but that isn't a normal way to handle infra.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by 256_ on Thursday March 05, 2026 @12:27PM (#47264518)
Maybe somewhat unrelated, but I'm reminded of the fact that people have deleted the main page on a few occasions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_delete_the_m...
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by RGamma on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:20PM (#47266020)
Seems like a good time to donate one's resources to fix it. The internet is super hostile these days. If Wikipedia falls... well...
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by tick_tock_tick on Thursday March 05, 2026 @04:11PM (#47267340)
Wikipedia doesn't even spend donation of Wikipedia anymore.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Wikipedianon on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:29PM (#47266858)
It's a political issue. Editors are unwilling or unable to contribute to development of the features they need to edit.

Unfortunately, Wikipedia is run on insecure user scripts created by volunteers that tend to be under the age of 18.

There might be more editors trying to resume boost if editing Wikipedia under your real name didn't invite endless harassment.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by logophobia on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:43PM (#47266309)
Sounds more like a political issue this. Can't buy your way out of that.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by PsylentKnight on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:39PM (#47266263)
My understanding is that Wikipedia receives more donations than they need, surely they have the resources to fix it themselves?
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by noosphr on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:46PM (#47266338)
You would first need to realzie it's a problem.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by krater23 on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:02PM (#47266551)
Maybe this is the reason for this worm. Someone is angry because they don't got it in another way...
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by jibal on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:52PM (#47267124)
The worm is a two year old script from the Russian Wiki that was grabbed randomly for a test by a stupid admin running unsandboxed with full privileges, so no.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by diath on Thursday March 05, 2026 @06:11PM (#47268535)
They have 100s of millions USD, they will be fine: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/3/3f/Wikim... (page 5-7).
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by _verandaguy on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:55PM (#47266458)

    > Based on the fact user scripts are globally disabled now I'm guessing this was a vector.
Disabled at which level?

Browsers still allow for user scripts via tools like TamperMonkey and GreaseMonkey, and that's not enforceable (and arguably, not even trivially visible) to sites, including Wikipedia.

As I say that out loud, I figure there's a separate ecosystem of Wikipedia-specific user scripts, but arguably the same problem exists.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by howenterprisey on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:02PM (#47266545)
Yeah, wikipedia has its own user script system, and that was what was disabled.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Wikipedianon on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:39PM (#47266979)
The sitewide JavaScript/CSS is an editable Wiki page.

You can also upload scripts to be shared and executed by other users.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by karel-3d on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:34PM (#47266924)
This is apparently not done browser side but server side.

As in, user can upload whatever they wish and it will be shown to them and ran, as JS, fully privileged and all.

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Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by alphager on Thursday March 05, 2026 @01:14PM (#47265129)
Most admins on Wikipedia are competent in areas outside of webdev and security.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by chris_wot on Saturday March 07, 2026 @07:43PM (#47293110)
No, most admins are incompetent, full stop. I've been on the receiving end.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by formerly_proven on Thursday March 05, 2026 @02:12PM (#47265911)
Wikipedia admins are not IT admins, they're more like forum moderators or admins on a free phpBB 2 hosting service in 2005. They don't have "admin" access to backend systems. Those are the WMF sysadmins.
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Wikipedianon on Thursday March 05, 2026 @03:42PM (#47267013)
This is half true, because Wikipedia admins had the ability to edit sitewide JavaScript until 2018.

A certain number of "community" admins maintain that right to this day after it was realized this was a massive security hole.

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Gander5739 on Friday March 06, 2026 @04:51AM (#47272974)
You mean interface admins?
Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by AlienRobot on Thursday March 05, 2026 @04:40PM (#47267688)
For reference

>There are currently 15 interface administrators (including two bots).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Interface_administra...

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by Nemo_bis on Friday March 06, 2026 @02:15AM (#47271973)
Reminds me of the famous quip starting with "found a bug in the english site" (early 2000s)...

https://bash.toolforge.org/quip/AU8FCPz66snAnmqnLHDj

Re:Wikipedia in read-only mode following mass admin account ... by bawolff on Friday March 06, 2026 @02:50AM (#47272197)
> Prior to this, any admin had that ability until it was taken away due to English Wikipedia admins reverting Wikimedia changes to site presentation (Mediaviewer).

You're mixing up events. Superprotect is unrelated to the IAdmin separation from normal admin. The two are separated by many years and basically totally unrelated.

I agree with the rest of your post.