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Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by knicholes on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @04:58PM (#47239642)
I wonder if Apple has foresight into locally running LLMs becoming sufficiently useful.
Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by DiscourseFan on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @08:10PM (#47241664)
It won’t handle serious tasks but I have Gemma 3 installed on my M2 Mac and it is good for most of my needs—-esp data I don’t want a corporation getting its hands on.
Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by andai on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @08:38PM (#47241881)
What kind of tasks are you using it for? I haven't really found any uses for small models.
Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by fnordpiglet on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @11:49PM (#47243201)
I run Qwen 3.5 30B MOE and it’s reasonable at most tasks I would use a local model for - including summarizing things. For instance I auto update all my toolchains automatically in the background when I log in and when finished I use my local model to summarize everything updated and any errors or issues on the next prompt rendering. It’s quite nice b/c everything stay updated, I know whats been updated, and I am immediately aware of issues. I also use it for a variety of “auto correct” tasks, “give me the command for,” summarize the man page and explain X, and a bunch of tasks that I would rather not copy and paste etc.
Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by DiscourseFan on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @11:36PM (#47243102)
Nothing like coding, just like relatively basic stuff. Idk its hard to explain but I use AI so frequently for work that I have a sense for what it is capable of.
Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by andai on Wednesday March 04, 2026 @09:13AM (#47247606)
Which size Gemma are you using?

I should clarify that by small I mean in the 3-8B range. I haven't tested the 14-30B ones, my experience is only about the smaller ones.

In my experience, small models are not good for coding (except very basic tasks), they're not good for general knowledge. So the only purpose I could see for them would be, when they're given the information, i.e. summarization or RAG.

But in my summarization experiments, they consistently misunderstood the information given to them. They constantly made basic errors and failed to understand the text.

So having eliminated programming, general knowledge, summarization and (by extension, RAG, because if you can't understand the information, then you can't do RAG either, by definition) -- I have eliminated all the use cases that I had in mind!

That would leave very basic tasks like classification or keywords, but I think there they would be in the awkward middle ground of being disappointing relative to big LLMs for many tasks, and cumbersome relative to small specialized models which can run fast and cheap and be fine tuned.

Re:Apple Introduces MacBook Pro with All‑New M5 Pro and M5 Max by b112 on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @07:57PM (#47241540)
They do! "You're holding it wrong*