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Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by maxloh on Monday March 02, 2026 @10:15AM (#47219030)
I don’t think so. Motorola Mobility is owned by the Chinese Lenovo, making it an adversary-owned entity in the eyes of most Western governments.

Even with a fully open-source OS and first-class MDM, the company would struggle to gain significant market share. The Hardware Root of Trust and the binary blobs would still be compiled by a firm that Western governments view as a fundamental supply-chain risk.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by moffkalast on Monday March 02, 2026 @11:49AM (#47220450)
> Lenovo (/ləˈnoʊvoʊ/ lə-NOH-voh, Chinese: 联想; pinyin: Liánxiǎng), is a Hong Kong–based Chinese-American[11] multinational corporation

> Lenovo originated as an offshoot of a state-owned research institute.[14] Then known as Legend and distributing foreign IT products, co-founder Liu Chuanzhi incorporated[2] Legend in Hong Kong in an attempt to raise capital and was successfully permitted to build computers in China

Ok holy fuck, how did they stop that from being common knowledge? Nobody I know would ever think of Lenovo as nothing but another US company.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by EvanAnderson on Monday March 02, 2026 @01:31PM (#47222030)
It was common knowledge in my circles back at the time of the acquisition, but that's been 20+ years ago now. I try to bring attention to it whenever I'm asked about using Lenovo gear.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by throw5t43e2 on Monday March 02, 2026 @10:04PM (#47227447)
I’m pretty sure OP is being sarcastic.

The companies I have worked for in the past have always sworn by Thinkpads.

I don’t care who owns them Thinkpads are amazing.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by maxloh on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @12:39AM (#47228562)
I can only supply you with facts. Trust could be an emotional word after all.

Using a device manufactured by an adversary-owned entity defeats the sole purpose of MDM. Your data isn't safe within an OS compiled by a Chinese company that "originated as an offshoot of a state-owned research institute." [1] There are so many layers where a backdoor could be hidden within the stack.

I don't think Big Techs or any companies that take data security seriously would accept such a device.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by tazjin on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @08:24AM (#47231952)
Okay, so which hardware are you buying that isn't using any Chinese components?) I don't think the empire can make this kind of hardware from scratch without China at the moment.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by moffkalast on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @04:51AM (#47230307)
China makes excellent hardware, that's not really the core issue with this.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by thewebguyd on Monday March 02, 2026 @03:53PM (#47223912)
I remember it being a pretty big deal when IBM spun off thinkpads to Lenovo, and then again when they were caught installing malware in the EFI on some of the entry level models.

I've avoided them since despite them being the favored laptop of most corporate and Linux users.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by rngfnby on Monday March 02, 2026 @11:43PM (#47228154)
I guess you're too young to remember Lenovo buying IBM's PC business and folks complaining about security since they were Chinese?
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by zeruch on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @08:51PM (#47241973)
Nobody of a certain age. If you are over 35 you'll remember when they were known as a Chinese firm buying up all of the IBM Thinkpad business...
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by alpineman on Monday March 02, 2026 @10:29AM (#47219232)
I never worked in a corporate that didn't use Lenovo
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by carlmr on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @02:52AM (#47229463)
There are MacBook companies, but Lenovo is basically the only other alternative.

I've had Dell in the past, but haven't seen one in years.

Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by bigfatkitten on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @03:28AM (#47229733)
You won’t see any Lenovo in the defense industry.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by joe_mamba on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @03:52AM (#47229918)
Defense industry is a small fraction of the notebook market, meaning Lenovo is still no. 1 globally even when missing the global defense market
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by lava_pidgeon on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @10:27AM (#47233835)
You are aware of the existence of the Chinese defence industry?
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by evanjrowley on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @08:17PM (#47241721)
This explains why China's defense capabilities are outpacing the west in 2026. The defense behemoth who castrates users by denying them the all-powerful TrackPoint will be doomed to irrelevance very soon.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by BatteryMountain on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @12:43AM (#47228584)
Even then, it can be solved by having open-source firmware, kernels, drivers and userspace. If they make that the core value proposition, they will win.If they can guarantee the entire execution chain is open & clean, or even just flashable with custom firmwares/kernels, that would be amazing.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by josephcsible on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @12:33PM (#47235790)
That doesn't solve it. If the hardware itself is backdoored, none of those other things being open source will save you.
Re:Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation by conz on Tuesday March 03, 2026 @01:27AM (#47228860)
Re: "The Hardware Root of Trust and the binary blobs would still be compiled by a firm that Western governments view as a fundamental supply-chain risk."

Sorry to break it to you, but all of the US hardware firms have now fallen into this same trust-abyss. Trump's USA is now seen in many parts as as big, if not a bigger, digital sovereignty threat as China's communist party is.