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Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by yosamino on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:41PM (#47145752)
Why are you asking a ridiculous question?

To have a useful and productive discussion about the modern conflict, it's pretty obvious that we don't need to go back to Jacob and Esau, but to "Zionism" and it's enabler "European - specifically British and French - colonialism."

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by ultrablack on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @09:46PM (#47146658)
The muslims arent native to the land though. They are just colonizers.
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by 46493168 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:49PM (#47147085)
There was never a process where Arab or Muslim conquerors completely replaced the native population, they just added to it. Conversion and Arabization gradually transformed the existing population’s identity. If descent from conquerors means colonizer, then virtually no population on earth is non-colonial. Arabs in Palestine, Normans in England, Turks in Anatolia, Romans everywhere…

Colonizer status is typically attached to an event and structure, not inherited indefinitely.

Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by xdennis on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @11:16PM (#47147292)
Interesting perspective. But does that mean that Taylor Swift is just as native as Sitting Bull? Or are descendants of aboriginal Americans more entitled to the land?
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by 46493168 on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @02:32PM (#47156608)
Under the most common frameworks for assessing claims about "indigenous status" or "land entitlement", length of continuous inhabitation and external support for migration are big factors. Considering Sitting Bull's lineage likely migrated unsupported from other regimes and his lineage inhabited North America for much longer, it's unlikely Taylor Swift would be considered "just as native." Whether descendants of Sitting Bull are specifically entitled to land is a matter of ongoing legal and cultural dispute.
Re:IDF Killed Gaza Aid Workers at Point Blank Range in 2025 ... by slim on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @10:58PM (#47147144)
They are native and converted to islam