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Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by hbn on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @03:22PM (#47142379)
You can add 5 layers of "are you sure you want to do this unsafe thing" and it just adds 5 easy steps to the scam where they say "agree to the annoying popup"
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by pas on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @03:35PM (#47142583)
then make the unlock cost money

relatively easy for devs, but hard to scale for scammers

Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by giancarlostoro on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @04:10PM (#47143112)
It's either that or as suggested, hard require developer validation for specific API permissions.
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by yjftsjthsd-h on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @11:10AM (#47153459)
It is unreasonable to require a payment for people to use their own phone the way they want
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by pas on Thursday February 26, 2026 @09:26AM (#47166560)
They are already buying a locked down phone most of the time. And they already want this! (Unfortunately the bootloaders are locked, as far as I know.)

Developers want developer phones, non-developers want safe phones that are resistant to their and their shitty bank's goddamn fucking stupidity. (Because banks UX is so so so so bad that most of the time the phishing attack seems like just a normal part of the bank's UX.)

But it's hard to separate people on a webshop, if a shop runs out of non-developer phones they'll happily sell the developer phones to non-developers.

Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by mormegil on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @04:18PM (#47143205)
You could even make this an installation-time option. If you want to enable the switch afterwards, you have to do a factory reset. Then, the attackers convincing the victims would get nothing.
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by pmontra on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:35PM (#47144303)
Or make sideloading available only after 24 hours since enabling it. I would enable it on my new devices and wait 24 hours before installing F-Droid and other apps. Not a problem. Scammers might wait one day too but it decreases the chances of success because friends and family members can interfere.

But I'm afraid that this is security theater and the true goal is to protect revenues by making it hard or impossible to install apps that impact Alfabet bottom line (eg third party YouTube clients.)

Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by TeMPOraL on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:10PM (#47144776)
> But I'm afraid that this is security theater and the true goal is to protect revenues by making it hard or impossible to install apps that impact Alfabet bottom line (eg third party YouTube clients.)

It's not just them. Every other SaaS, from banks to media providers to E2EE[0] chat clients to random apps whose makers feel insecure, or are obsessed with security [theater] best practices, just salivate at the thought of being able to check if you're a deviant running with root or debugging privileges, all because ${complex web of excuses that often sound plausible if you don't look too closely}. There's a huge demand for device attestation, remote or otherwise.

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[0] - End-to-end Enshittified.

Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by pmontra on Wednesday February 25, 2026 @09:35AM (#47152056)
In the case of most of those business it's only because they must mark checkboxes on a regulation compliance sheet and/or deflect blame on someone else. The problem is that this is a never ending spiral of regulation after regulation and new ways to deflect blame so after device attestation will fail to solve all of their problems they'll end up pushing something else.
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by 201984 on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @06:08PM (#47144754)
And now if I want to send a .apk to someone, they have to wipe their entire phone to install it? No thanks.
Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by altruios on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @05:40PM (#47144366)
That's... brilliant. Enough work to not be able to talk it though over the phone to someone not technical. A sane default for people who don't know about security. And a simple enough procedure for the technically minded and brave.

It solves the 'smartest bear / dumbest human' overlap design concern in this situation.

Re:Open Letter to Google on Mandatory Developer Registration... by plst on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:39PM (#47145732)
Think about it the way you think about reading the fine print on agreements you sign. These can also have bad consequences.

But I guess not reading the TOS is another wide problem, also fueled by companies like Google.