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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by addaon on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:15PM (#47069080)
> Objective-C was created because using standards is contrary to the company culture.

What language would you have suggested for that mission and that era? Self or Smalltalk and give up on performance on 25-MHz-class processors? C or Pascal and give up an excellent object system with dynamic dispatch?

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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by stephc_int13 on Thursday February 19, 2026 @12:10AM (#47070156)
C.
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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by addaon on Thursday February 19, 2026 @12:32AM (#47070284)
C's a great language in 1985, and a great starting point. But development of UI software is one of those areas where object oriented software really shines. What if we could get all the advantages of C as a procedural language, but graft on top an extremely lightweight object system with a spec of < 20 pages to take advantage of these new 1980s-era developments in software engineering, while keeping 100% of the maturity and performance of the C ecosystem? We could call it Objective-C.
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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by mpweiher on Monday February 23, 2026 @04:33PM (#47129190)
And Objective-C is C. A strict superset, in fact.

If

   [aView display];
really, really, really isn't to your liking, you can write

   objc_msgSend( aView, @selector(display));
or even:

   objc_msgSend( aView, sel_registerName("display"));
That's pretty much all there is to it. But I have to admit I like the syntax better:

   [aView display];
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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by addaon on Monday February 23, 2026 @05:17PM (#47129797)
(Hi mpw)
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Re:Ladybird: Closing this as we are no longer pursuing Swift... by mpweiher on Tuesday February 24, 2026 @07:11AM (#47136138)
(Hi Adam, how's the flying?)
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