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Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by weatherlite on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @06:46AM (#47060022)
> This is an underrated take. If you make someone 3x faster at producing a report nobody reads, you've improved nothing

In the private market are there really so many companies delivering reports no one reads ? Why would management keep at it then ? The goal is to maximize profits. Now sure there are pockets of inefficiency even in the private sector but surely not that much - whatever the companies are doing - someone is buying it from them, otherwise they fail. That's capitalism. Yes there is perhaps 20% of employees who don't pull their weight but its not the majority.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by TheOtherHobbes on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @07:12AM (#47060192)
The implication is that companies in a private market can't possibly be hugely inefficient for irrational reasons that can ultimately be self-harming.

An interesting take.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by weatherlite on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @10:13AM (#47061852)
I used the term "private market" when I actually meant the private sector. I just mean all labor that isn't government owned - public companies, private companies etc. So yes - in a reasonably functioning capitalist market (which the U.S still is in my eyes) I expect gross inefficiencies to not be prevalent.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by generic92034 on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @11:22AM (#47062682)
> So yes - in a reasonably functioning capitalist market (which the U.S still is in my eyes) I expect gross inefficiencies to not be prevalent.

I am not sure that is true, though. Assume for a moment that Google would waste 50% of their profits. Truly, a huge inefficiency. However, would that make it likely some other corp could take their search/ad market share from them? I doubt it, given the abyss of a moat.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @11:28AM (#47062744)
True. Therefore, what?

One could say: True, therefore search is not a reasonably functioning capitalist market.

Yeah, I know, this can turn into "no true capitalist market". Still, it seems reasonable to say that many markets work in a certain kind of way (with lots of competition), and search is not one of those markets.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by generic92034 on Thursday February 19, 2026 @11:45AM (#47075763)
The parent was referring to the whole US as "market". In that sense the numerous exceptions and non-functioning markets invalidate the statement, IMHO.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by watwut on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @12:03PM (#47063251)
They can be irrational and ineffective. Nevertheless, if LLM are useful, they would still earn more then before.

Regardless of their effectivity, it means LLMs are not useful for them.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by cucumber3732842 on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @07:02AM (#47060127)
>In the private market are there really so many companies delivering reports no one reads ?

Just this month the hospital in my municipality submitted an application to put in a new concrete pad for a new generator beside the old one that they, per the application, intend to retire/remove and replace with a storage shed on it's pad once the new one is operational.

Full page intro about how the hospital is saving the world, such a great thing for the community and all manner of vapid buzzword bullshit. dozens of pages of re-hashing bullshit about the environmental conditions, etc, etc, (i.e. basically reiterating stuff from when they built the facility), etc, etc.

God knows how many people and hours it took to compile it (we'll ignore the labor wasted in the public sector circulating and reading it).

All for a project that 50yr ago wouldn't have required 1/100th of the labor expenditure just to be kicked off. All that labor, squandered on nothing that makes anyone any richer. No goods made. No services rendered.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by b40d-48b2-979e on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @07:24AM (#47060272)
Why should hospitals be for-profit organizations? Sounds like all the wrong incentives.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by cucumber3732842 on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @07:44AM (#47060395)
>Why should hospitals be for-profit organizations? Sounds like all the wrong incentives.

You're conflating private ownership with the organizations nominal financial structure. It has nothing to do with the structure model of the organization and everything to do with resources wasted on TPS reports. This waste has to come from somewhere. Something is necessarily being forgone whether that's profit, reinvestment in the organization or competitive edge that benefits the customer (e.g. lower cost or higher quality for same cost). The same is true for a for profit company, or any other organization.

FWIW the hospital is technically nonprofit as is typical for hospitals. And I assure you, they still have all the wrong incentives despite this.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by mikkupikku on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:40AM (#47061429)
The cost is it taking America a billion dollars to build what China can for 50 million. That's ultimately where the waste accumulates.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by mikkupikku on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:39AM (#47061408)
Best description of America's biggest long term problem I've read. This shit is exactly the reason we can't build anything in America anymore.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by nananana9 on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @08:19AM (#47060641)
I don't know what to tell you aside from "just go and work at a large private company and see".

I'm not smart enough to understand the macro-economics or incentive structures that lead to this happening, but I've seen many 100+ man teams that output whose output is something you could reasonably expect from a 5 man team.

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by weatherlite on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @10:19AM (#47061931)
Sorry I meant to say the private sector, not sure if it changes the argument though since you seem to believe inefficiencies are all over the place - in public companies, private etc. I've worked in tech all my life and in general if you were grossly inefficient you'd get fired. Now tech may be a high efficiency / low bullshit industry but I'm assuming in general if you are truly shit at your job you'd get fired no matter the industry.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by ImHereToVote on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:31AM (#47061323)
Many of these companies are fairly close to the mechanisms of credit creation. That distortion can make a market work very counterintuitively.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by fastasucan on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @08:56AM (#47060942)
The goal might be to maximize profits, but that only means that managers want to make sure everyone further down the chain are doing whatever they identify to be the best way to accomplish that. How do you do that? Reports.
Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by xmcqdpt2 on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @09:12AM (#47061106)
> In the private market are there really so many companies delivering reports no one reads ? Why would management keep at it then ?

In finance, you have to produce truly astounding amounts of regulatory reports that won't be read... until there is a crash, or a lawsuit, or an investigation etc. And then they better have been right!

Re:Thousands of CEOs just admitted AI had no impact on emplo... by weatherlite on Wednesday February 18, 2026 @10:21AM (#47061969)
Got it that's a fair point - you're saying many companies deal with heaps of regulations and expediting that isn't really adding to productivity. I agree with you here. But even if 50% of what a company does is shit no one cares about - surely there's the other 50% that actually matters - no? Otherwise how does the company survive financially.