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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by umanwizard on Sunday February 15, 2026 @09:26PM (#47030218)
That's hard to answer because the advantage is essentially infinitely large. Engines never lose or draw against unassisted humans. Any modern chess engine, if it plays 100 games against any human (even magnus), will have a record of 100 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses. This is true both in standard chess and Chess960.
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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by nilslindemann on Sunday February 15, 2026 @10:12PM (#47030452)
This is most definitely wrong. There will be some draws and even a few wins, though that's very rare indeed.
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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by umanwizard on Sunday February 15, 2026 @10:36PM (#47030591)
When is the last time a human has beaten a computer in a fair chess game?
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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by nilslindemann on Monday February 16, 2026 @03:07AM (#47032249)
A fair match has never been played between humans and computers. Let's say we have a fair match:

    * 100 games, to have some statistical relevance.
    * One move per day, so that being tired is no disadvantage (engine can ponder all day).
    * Human has access to endgame tablebases and opening databases, like the engine.
    * Human can make notes and has a software like Chess Position Trainer, which can min max, like the engine.
If the human is a GM with Elo 2700+ I predict 25 draws and 5 wins for the human. The engine wins 70 games.
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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by Bootvis on Monday February 16, 2026 @11:06AM (#47036731)
From the Stockfish docs at https://official-stockfish.github.io/docs/stockfish-wiki/Sto....

> Rating Stockfish against a human scale, such as FIDE Elo, has become virtually impossible. The gap in strength is so large that a human player cannot secure the necessary draws or wins for an accurate Elo measurement.

[1]: https://computerchess.org.uk/ccrl/4040/

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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by copper4eva on Monday February 16, 2026 @02:18PM (#47039054)
You're way off the mark here on modern engine strength.

There are many examples of top players playing Leela Knight Odds. And none of them even got remotely close to a decent record. Usually a few draws, and maybe a win. But almost entirely losses.

And that is with knight odds. Without that, zero chance.

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Re:Magnus Carlsen Wins the Freestyle (Chess960) World Champi... by dyauspitr on Monday February 16, 2026 @03:00AM (#47032196)
It technically could happen but hasn’t so far.
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