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Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ari_elle on Thursday October 25, 2012 @10:25PM (#4700545)
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4695275

but let's see - maybe this time people will be interested :)

I think it's very interesting, since it's not only theoretical, it already works.

This could be one of the key technologies used by the US military in the next war they'll fight in.

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ynniv on Thursday October 25, 2012 @10:57PM (#4700639)
Or against the US... http://www.upi.com/Science_News/2011/07/22/Report-China-deve...

Plus, I hear we don't practice the same kind of map-in-hand training that would be useful after an effective EMP.

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ari_elle on Thursday October 25, 2012 @11:05PM (#4700654)
Thanks for the link - interesting. Though i don't think US' next war enemy will be China ;)

What kind of "map-in-hand training" - needed to use such a weapon effectively - are you referring to?

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by carbocation on Thursday October 25, 2012 @11:21PM (#4700706)
Navigation without electronics. With a compass, a map, and your wits. And maybe the Antikythera mechanism.
Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ari_elle on Thursday October 25, 2012 @11:47PM (#4700778)
They are not knocking out a city, but buildings.

Some military buildings knocked out, everything not underground or specially shielded shuts down, has to reboot - this combined with a military strike...

You don't need soldiers equipped with compasses to do this.

It's not like electric devices in a big area don't work for a long amount of time.

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ynniv on Friday October 26, 2012 @12:18AM (#4700858)
shuts down, has to reboot

I don't think you understand how an EMP works. The article is about a microwave gun which is more selective but less effective than a nuclear EMP. The pulse causes extremely high voltage. Durable electronics (an old car) might restart, but modern electronics are often destroyed.

It's not like electric devices in a big area don't work for a long amount of time.

Unless they are EMP hardened, they will not work forever, which to me is a pretty long time.

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ari_elle on Friday October 26, 2012 @12:40AM (#4700895)
Then US military with EMP hardened equipment.

It's not the technical aspects i have a problem with, it's the statement that US Military lacks skills to strike after EMP attack.

"we don't practice the same kind of map-in-hand training that would be useful after an effective EMP"

Like i've also stated: Maybe it wasn't meant to be that serious, maybe it even was meant to be funny.

Thanks anyway for clarifying this. I am intrigued. Guess i will read into this topic in more detail :)

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by SoftwareMaven on Friday October 26, 2012 @12:17PM (#4702884)
If you want a good read on the effect of a massive EMP attack, read "One Second After"[1]. William R. Forstchen wrote it after presenting to the US Congress on the dangers of EMP, and having the presentation be largely ignored.

1. http://www.amazon.com/One-Second-After-William-Forstchen/dp/...

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by carbocation on Thursday October 25, 2012 @11:51PM (#4700790)
The reference to map-in-hand was spoken in the same breath as an EMP. I don't believe it's intended to be directly related to this missile, but seems to have been brought up tangentially. I explained the reference to you because based on your question, you seemed to sincerely not understand the map-in-hand reference.
Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by ari_elle on Friday October 26, 2012 @12:05AM (#4700828)
Ok, sorry.

But it was only logical to assume that he referred to the missile, since it's the article you automatically (normally) talk about when writing a comment.

I still don't see his problem though.

Even if we talk about EMPs in general:

-> US Soldiers know exact time and are prepared (i don't see no problem there - even if they couldn't handle a map, which i strongly doubt)

It was probably meant to be a funny/ironic remark i guess

Re:Non-lethal microwave-blasting missile knocks out electronics by grumps on Thursday October 25, 2012 @10:44PM (#4700602)
Sorta....depends on whom.