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Re:Running Your Own As: BGP on FreeBSD with FRR, GRE Tunnels... by dogcow on Sunday February 08, 2026 @12:48PM (#46936684)
Yes, same here. Very frustrating. It is almost as if the powers that be don't want lowly netizens controlling their own destiny.
Re:Running Your Own As: BGP on FreeBSD with FRR, GRE Tunnels... by direwolf20 on Sunday February 08, 2026 @01:05PM (#46936853)
Actually, they don't want to pollute the internet routing table with routes that are fully subsumed into other routes. The effect on address ownership is a side effect.
Re:Running Your Own As: BGP on FreeBSD with FRR, GRE Tunnels... by zhouzhao on Sunday February 08, 2026 @02:03PM (#46937377)
Actually, they just want to milk the money out of you. It's a matter of how much your willing to pay, as a business customer, it's all possible.

Most ISP do not have such pure goals, as to protect the global routing tables ;)

Re:Running Your Own As: BGP on FreeBSD with FRR, GRE Tunnels... by direwolf20 on Sunday February 08, 2026 @02:09PM (#46937433)
RIRs, not ISPs, allocate addresses at the top level, they make money on each address allocation, and they still won't allocate addresses to you if you don't multihome because they have a duty to conserve resources.

When you get PI addresses your LIR/ISP just passes your data on to the RIR.

Re:Running Your Own As: BGP on FreeBSD with FRR, GRE Tunnels... by dboreham on Monday February 09, 2026 @02:11AM (#46942436)
Just like many industries there's a retail side and a wholesale side. You're asking to get a wholesale product from a retail channel. If you become a wholesale customer you can get what you want, for a price.