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Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by AIorNot on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:11PM (#46928077)
I hate to be harsh but this mentality is part of the decline of this country

(that is so evident with loss of manufacturing, open and free science and tech robber barons oligarchs that have taken over our national discourse)

Brookhaven was instrumental to Nobel winning discoveries and Stony Brook was a great science minded university

I’m not opposed to investing in AI but its not a zero sum game and we are not a country of data centers alone

Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by pfdietz on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:13PM (#46928096)
At some point physics entitlement has to end -- why not here? We can't just keep scaling up the size and cost of fundamental physics experiments. Eventually the cost becomes so large that platitudinous arguments for them don't work.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by micromacrofoot on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:40PM (#46928376)
We absolutely can, and I reckon we will... this is like a fraction of a percent of science funding which is a fraction of a percent of GDP, we spend more on maintaining warheads we can't use

10% of the US military budget for one year could build a 100km collider, RHIC is 4km

Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by pfdietz on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:46PM (#46928438)
What a nonsense argument. Spending like this has to be justified on its own merits, not because there is some other bad spending. The argument you are trying to make would justify spending on almost anything.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by micromacrofoot on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:47PM (#46928442)
The point is that there's so much bad spending that by comparison this is practically nothing to shake a stick at, and it produces actual science.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by pfdietz on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:49PM (#46928466)
Repeating a bad argument doesn't transmute it into a good argument. I already explained why your argument is invalid. Please reconsider your dogmatic and irrational support for this kind of spending.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by SiempreViernes on Saturday February 07, 2026 @05:45PM (#46929018)
No, you just asserted that you think existing arguments are invalid, then accused a person who disregarded your assertion of being "dogmatic".
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by Izikiel43 on Saturday February 07, 2026 @05:17PM (#46928720)
It's not a question of "can", it's a question of "should". No one knows what discoveries can happen and what the spillover from them could be in the future. In essence, it's a bet, a moonshot.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by mmooss on Saturday February 07, 2026 @05:52PM (#46929089)
How can you look at current and recent US science and call it 'entitlement'? Have there been larger cuts anywhere in modern history?
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by pfdietz on Saturday February 07, 2026 @05:53PM (#46929098)
If you think you are entitled to any amount larger than zero, you are showing entitlement.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by MSFT_Edging on Saturday February 07, 2026 @06:30PM (#46929450)
It's not an entitlement if you're paying into the tax base.

I'm somehow entitled to others receiving corporate bailouts, entitled to massive military waste spending, and entitled to seeing the "victims" of Havana Syndrome receiving free healthcare for life.

Yet I am not entitled to this money going towards research for the greater good of humanity?

Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by Insanity on Saturday February 07, 2026 @04:29PM (#46928281)
Nit: saying “this country” without context on where the parent poster is from or where you are from is kinda useless.

From context, you probably mean USA. And I’d agree, however the US was always more technology minded than scientifically minded, and the parent poster lines up with that centuries old ideology. So I don’t think this is per se a new thing.

Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by davrosthedalek on Saturday February 07, 2026 @09:46PM (#46930853)
Why past tense? BNL will host the EIC, and SBU is going full steam.
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by DetroitThrow on Saturday February 07, 2026 @10:49PM (#46931163)
FYI the lab isn't shutting down. Glad you appreciate it's achievements though!
Re:Brookhaven Lab's RHIC concludes 25-year run with final co... by mindslight on Sunday February 08, 2026 @12:16AM (#46931526)
You were not nearly harsh enough.