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Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by jazzyjackson on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @02:59AM (#46882848)
This might be an unpopular opinion but I always thought we might be better off without Web 2.0 where site owners aren’t held responsible for user content

If you’re hosting content, why shouldn’t you be responsible, because your business model is impossible if you’re held to account for what’s happening on your premises?

Without safe harbor, people might have to jump through the hoops of buying their own domain name, and hosting content themselves, would that be so bad?

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by pdpi on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @04:23AM (#46883521)
What about webmail, IM, or any other sort of web-hosted communication? Do you honestly think it would be better if Google were responsible for whatever content gets sent to a gmail address?
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by jazzyjackson on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @05:40AM (#46884131)
Messages are a little different than hosting public content but sure, a service provider should know its customers and stop doing business with any child sex traffickers planning parties over email.

I would prefer 10,000 service providers to one big one that gets to read all the plaintext communication of the entire planet.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by pdpi on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:59AM (#46884809)
In a world where hosting services are responsible that way, their filtering would need to be even more sensitive than it is today, and plenty of places already produce unreasonable amounts of false positives.

As it stands, I have a bunch of photos on my phone that would almost certainly get flagged by over-eager/overly sensitive child porn detection — close friends and family sending me photos of their kids at the beach. I've helped bathe and dress some of those kids. There's nothing nefarious about any of it, but it's close enough that services wouldn't take the risk, and that would be a loss to us all.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by direwolf20 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @05:50AM (#46884217)
They'd all have to read your emails to ensure you don't plan child sex parties. Whenever a keyword match comes up, your account will immediately be deleted.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by terminalshort on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @05:43AM (#46884153)
You know this site would not be possible without those protections, right?
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by jazzyjackson on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @12:48PM (#46888987)
On the contrary HN is one of the most heavily moderated forums out here and serves as a great example of a right-size community where sex trafficking is not happening under the nose of an ambivalent host

(Snark aside, in your opinion are there comments on HN that dang would be criminally liable for if it weren't for safe harbor?)

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by direwolf20 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @05:48AM (#46884206)
Any app allowing any communication between two users would be illegal.
Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by expedition32 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:43AM (#46884644)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EncroChat

You have to understand that Europe doesn't give a shit about techbro libertarians and their desire for a new Lamborghini.

Re:Paris prosecutors raid France offices of Elon Musk's X by direwolf20 on Wednesday February 04, 2026 @06:50AM (#46884724)
EncroChat was illegal because it was targeted at drug dealers, advertised for use in drug dealing. And they got evidence by texting "My associate got busted dealing drugs. Can you wipe his device?" and it was wiped. There's an actual knowledge component which is very important here.