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Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by theshrike79 on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @12:01PM (#46873646)
Should be possible with optimised models, just drop all "generic" stuff and focus on coding performance.

There's no reason for a coding model to contain all of ao3 and wikipedia =)

Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by noveltyaccount on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @12:29PM (#46874023)
I think I like coding models that know a lot about the world. They can disambiguate my requirements and build better products.
Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by regularfry on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @12:52PM (#46874413)
I generally prefer a coding model that can google for the docs, but separate models for /plan and /build is also a thing.
Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by noveltyaccount on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @01:31PM (#46875068)
> separate models for /plan and /build

I had not considered that, seems like a great solution for local models that may be more resource-constrained.

Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by regularfry on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @01:49PM (#46875385)
You can configure aider that way. You get three, in fact: an architect model, a code editor model, and a quick model for things like commit messages. Although I'm not sure if it's got doc searching capabilities.
Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by MarsIronPI on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @12:34PM (#46874118)
But... but... I need my coding model to be able to write fanfiction in the comments...
Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by moffkalast on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @01:22PM (#46874911)
That's what Meta thought initially too, training codellama and chat llama separately, and then they realized they're idiots and that adding the other half of data vastly improves both models. As long as it's quality data, more of it doesn't do harm.

Besides, programming is far from just knowing how to autocomplete syntax, you need a model that's proficient in the fields that the automation is placed in, otherwise they'll be no help in actually automating it.

Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by theshrike79 on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @04:13PM (#46877370)
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Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by jstummbillig on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @01:31PM (#46875078)
There is: It works (even if we can't explain why right now).

If we knew how to create a SOTA coding model by just putting coding stuff in there, that is how we would build SOTA coding models.

Re:Qwen3-Coder-Next by wongarsu on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @05:25PM (#46878226)
Now I wonder how strong the correlation between coding performance and ao3 knowledge is in human programmers. Maybe we are on to something here /s