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Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by ehasbrouck on Monday February 02, 2026 @09:23PM (#46865595)
As of the imposition of start of this new fee/fine, about 200,000 people a day fly without ID or without REAL-ID: https://papersplease.org/wp/2025/05/28/200000-people-a-day-f... - At $45 a pop, that would bring in >$3B a year. "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money."
Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by Fhch6HQ on Monday February 02, 2026 @10:25PM (#46866064)
That's a really disappointing source. The headline is '200,000 people a day fly without REAL-ID', which starts out quite interesting.

It then goes on to explain that the TSA has reported 93% of traveler's complied with REAL ID, citing a TSA blog from a week prior which in fact states the same.

They then take this and couple it with a single day, which they state was the busiest travel day of the Memorial Day weekend, and extrapolate that 7% of the travelers that day must've failed to provide a REAL ID.

For the sake of conversation, this is a reasonable statement. Going back and using it to suggest 200k fly without it on a typical day is not reasonable, nor is your suggestion that a 6 months later it's still at 7% (or even typical travel volume hasn't changed.) There has to be better data available.

I was curious about this, so I looked up travel volume. YTD the daily average is 2,130,136 passengers. At 7%, this is 149,109.5 passengers or $2.449 B a year in fees. This ignores that you only pay the fee once very 10 days and assumes that all travelers pay the fee on every occurrence.

Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by NewJazz on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @02:24AM (#46867683)
The number you came up with is still in the same order of magnitude of the source...
Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by Forgeties79 on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @07:55AM (#46870415)
This is such an odd point that some of you are arguing. Reads like typical internet heel digging tbh.

The point is that lots of people will pay this fee and it will equal a large amount of money and it does nothing of value. It’s just a fee for the fee’s sake. It serves no practical purpose, it’s just punitive. You still get to fly. There’s no safety element, there’s nothing the RealID enables that costs something without it, there is no clear reason here for this.

What is the actual legitimate purpose of this fee that millions will likely pay? Almost half the country flies annually and as of April 2025 20% of travelers didn’t have a RealID. So we’re talking millions of people, some of which will pay it multiple times, per year until full compliance. This is going to net a consequential amount of money and it doesn’t seem like it’s for any purpose other than to generate revenue.

Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by 542354234235 on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @08:03AM (#46870476)
So, 1 to 2 billion dollars, depending on how many round trips are above or below 10 days. You're right, I thought this was real money, like 3 billion. But 1 to 2 billion? You find that between the couch cushions every week. I'm so glad people like you are out there debunking these ridiculous claims.
Re:The TSA's New $45 Fee to Fly Without ID Is Illegal by ehasbrouck on Tuesday February 03, 2026 @10:27AM (#46872165)
The most recent press release from the TSA claims that it's now 6% of passengers not showing ID or not showing REAL ID: https://www.tsa.gov/news/press/releases/2025/12/01/tsa-intro... So down only slightly since May 2025 when they started "enforcing" a "requirement" to show REAL-ID.