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Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by torginus on Thursday January 29, 2026 @10:59AM (#46811955)
I usually take extra care when going through a school zone, especially when I see some obstruction ('behind a tall SUV', was the waymo overtaking?), and overtaking is something I would probably never do (and should be banned in school zones by road signs).

This is a context that humans automatically have and consider. I'm sure Waymo engineers can mark spots on the map where the car needs to drive very conservatively.

Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by ndsipa_pomu on Thursday January 29, 2026 @12:04PM (#46812972)
I appreciate your sensible driving, but here in the UK, roads outside schools are complete mayhem at dropping off/picking up times. Speeding, overtaking, wild manoeuvres to turn round etc.

When reading the article, my first thought was that only going at 17mph was due to it being a robotaxi whereas UK drivers tend to be strongly opposed to 20mph speed limits outside schools.

Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by zdragnar on Thursday January 29, 2026 @01:02PM (#46813882)
Most US states cap speed limits around schools at 15mph when children are present. There may also be blinking lights above these signs during times that will be likely.

I'm not sure how much of that Waymo's cars take into account, as the law technically takes into account line of sight things that a person could see but Waymo's sensors might not, such as children present on a sidewalk.

Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by jefftk on Thursday January 29, 2026 @01:45PM (#46814562)
> Most US states cap speed limits around schools at 15mph when children are present.

Are you sure? The ones I've seen have usually been 20 or 25mph.

Looking on Image Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=school+zone+speed+limit+sign) and limiting just to the ones that are photos of real signs by the side of the road, the first 10 are: 25, 30, 25, 20, 35, 15, 20, 55, 20, 20. So only one of these was 15.

Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by enlightens on Thursday January 29, 2026 @03:48PM (#46816370)
Here's a random elementary school in Santa Monica with a 15mph sign https://www.google.com/maps/place/McKinley+Elementary+School...
Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by jobs_throwaway on Thursday January 29, 2026 @02:28PM (#46815270)
I don't think this is accurate, 20mph is more common
Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by cucumber3732842 on Thursday January 29, 2026 @01:24PM (#46814225)
School pick up and drop off traffic is just about the worst drivers anywhere. Like visibly worse than a bunch of "probably a little drunk" people leaving a sports stadium. It's like everyone reverts to "sixteen year old on first day behind the wheel" behavior. It's baffling. And there's always one token dad picking up his kid on a motorcycle or in a box truck or something that they all clutch their pearls at.
Re:Waymo robotaxi hits a child near an elementary school in ... by mikkupikku on Thursday January 29, 2026 @12:24PM (#46813287)
> especially when I see some obstruction ('behind a tall SUV', was the waymo overtaking?)

Yep. Driving safe isn't just about paying attention to what you can see, but also paying attention to what you can't see. Being always vigilant and aware of things like "I can't see behind that truck."

Honestly I don't think sensor-first approaches are cut out to tackle this; it probably requires something more akin to AGI, to allow inferring possible risks from incomplete or absent data.