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Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by mgkimsal on Saturday October 20, 2012 @09:09AM (#4676978)
110% agree. With 'enterprise agreements' though, which only the large companies can afford, you can get X support tickets, or call in numbers, etc.

I remember working one place that had that in place, and we hit an REALLY odd SQL Server bug (or, atleast it appeared to be a bug to us). We had top level support in place, but only had X per year, and no one would authorize us to use it just yet - "keep working on it for a bit, see if you can figure out a solution", because they didn't want to "waste" one of the calls if it turned out to be our mistake.

MS is in a weirder position, because offering direct support would cut out a lot of the consultants and ecosystem which they've trained/certified. You're expected to engage those people for support (although... they didn't write the software, so how they'd 'fix' something if it went wrong...?) Google has no such ecosystem to point to.

Yes, who would choose a bank for your critical banking needs (or a vehicle company for fleet management, etc) where your primary or only means of support was random forum postings that were staffed by volunteer workers who had no authority to fix things?

I tend to think this state of affairs evolved out of earlier beliefs that computers were "hard" and had some sort of black magic mystique around them.

Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by jstclair on Saturday October 20, 2012 @10:32AM (#4677139)
I've heard the same thing about banking the support calls for an unknown future problem, and my reaction is always the same; "We have had 2 devs working on this problem for x hours, at $y per hour. MS support calls are purchasable in packs at $z each. We passed the point for calling (really hard math here) hours ago. By the way, remind me which business school did you get your degree from?"
Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by mgkimsal on Saturday October 20, 2012 @10:51AM (#4677190)
"Hours?" In my case it was measured in days with weekends in between.

Overall, I've only worked at a few 'big' companies (more than 20 people) and was continually frustrated when requests of mine were framed as 'coming from a tech' or 'you don't understand business', which these sorts of requests tended to fall under.

In a nutshell, someone else got to choose tech XYZ, but didn't have to work with it. The people charged with using it are not given any authority to actually contact the vendor to fix the problem (or, in some cases, buy proper training or even get reimbursed for books on the subject). And somehow this is "good business"?

Few other departments in a large company would put up with this BS. Imagine the following scenario:

"Hey legal department, you're not allowed to buy a subscription to LexisNexis - just dig around on a forum for 8 weeks piecing together a defense. Oh, and by the way, we already set up the subsidiary in Brazil - forgot to tell you earlier. Just learn Spanish - I found this website where you can download Rosetta Stone for free. Anyway, Spanish is pretty easy - my son's already taken two classes in high school and took at trip to Mexico!"

Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by samuel on Saturday October 20, 2012 @12:56PM (#4677524)
Brazilians speak portuguese...
Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by mgkimsal on Saturday October 20, 2012 @01:09PM (#4677560)
That was intentional, highlighting how little people who impose tech decisions actually know, think or research about this stuff.

"Java/JavaScript" is the worst, but I'm sure we've all encountered others.

Re:Google Voice lost my business number. How I got it back, ... by benjarrell on Saturday October 20, 2012 @07:05PM (#4678433)
I feel your pain!